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Author Topic:   Could RNA start life?
New Cat's Eye
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Message 8 of 105 (682646)
12-04-2012 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by dayalanand roy
12-04-2012 12:50 AM


When there was no life, why did nature invent a storage system to store the information about sometning (Life) which was still not existent, and hence there was no information to store.
Chemistry. Given the right conditions, molecules just spontaneously react on their own. Its all according to physical laws. Biology is just complex chemistry and chemistry is just complex physics. There's no inventing or thought process, shit just happens.

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Message 28 of 105 (682963)
12-06-2012 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by dayalanand roy
12-06-2012 5:52 AM


Re: Re RNA
However, the difference between the animal trail in snow and RNA is that we have to derive information from the former and it is a passive information, but RNA is solely a copy, and an active copy of information, whether we derive or not, it will deliver its information to the protein synthesising machinery.
But its just chemistry. In a simliar way, if you distill salt water then the sodium and chlorine ions will deliver their "information" to the structure of the complex salt crystals that will form.
Really, these types of reactions have no option but to react in the way that they do. They're spontaneous. RNA doesn't have any "driver", its just a chemical reaction.

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Message 95 of 105 (725167)
04-24-2014 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Ed67
04-24-2014 2:34 PM


Re: Detection of a supernatural designer?
But I think an intelligence must have to UNDERSTAND a process before he could manipulate it, so not all intelligences are able to manipulate all existing processes - only the processes they understand.
Do you think leafcutter ants are intelligent enough to understand the process of growing fungus?
And what if there is a higher intelligence than humans?
Then when we have evidence of it we will investigate it.

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