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Theodoric
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Message 361 of 523 (919643)
07-18-2024 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 358 by Phat
07-18-2024 3:56 PM


Re: I want to communicate rather than be a troll
You have been here almost 21 years. You have learned nothing in that time. Absolutely nothing.
Today I had a meeting with my handicapped adult son and the company that does his job coaching. We are dealing with the same issues we were 20 years ago. He does well for a time and then cycles down and becomes difficult. He is on intense psychotropic meds but we have to be careful, so he does not zombify. Today we had the same conversations we have had countless times before.
In the meeting and now I was aware of the comparison between that and you here on EVC.
The difference is, though my son is 41 years old, he functions a lot like a 10-year-old. He is and will always be a boy in a man's body. With all of the needs, desires and wants of a 41-year-old body.
You do not function at that level, but you have shown no more ability to learn and change than my developmentally disabled son. Your ignorance and idiocy are willful.
Right now, you are either lying to us or lying to yourself. I guess you might be doing both.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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Percy
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Message 362 of 523 (919644)
07-18-2024 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 359 by Phat
07-18-2024 4:05 PM


Re: AI Copilot
All your attention is on YouTube videos, globalists, fiat money, precious metal websites and so forth, and now Copilot. It doesn't matter what we say, just on and on you go, off in your own world.
--Percy

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Message 363 of 523 (919645)
07-18-2024 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 359 by Phat
07-18-2024 4:05 PM


Re: AI Copilot
Phat writes in Message 359:
Now is that really venting?
It doesn't actually matter.
The important issue is that you don't listen. You pay no attention to the ideas of others. So you really aren't debating.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Phat
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Message 364 of 523 (919652)
07-20-2024 3:43 AM
Reply to: Message 363 by nwr
07-18-2024 5:21 PM


Going All In
nwr writes:
It doesn't actually matter.

The important issue is that you don't listen. You pay no attention to the ideas of others. So you really aren't debating
I watched Tucker Carlson and Trump himself talk at the RNC. I feel at times that I am being gaslighted when I speak up or speak out on anything and I'm tired of it. The progressives have to go back into hiding. Old Joe has to retire. And the mass inflow at the border has to be shut off.
Trump is far from perfect but he is the best of two choices.
Its time for the moderates to put up or shut up. Elect another choice at your DNC or prepare to lose this election.

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Phat
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Message 365 of 523 (919654)
07-20-2024 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 362 by Percy
07-18-2024 4:29 PM


Pennsylvania 6-5000
Percy writes:
All your attention is on YouTube videos, globalists, fiat money, precious metal websites and so forth, and now Copilot. It doesn't matter what we say, just on and on you go, off in your own world.
My typical day starts at 10 am. I usually work until 11 pm and then come home. My social life is at work with customers and co-workers. We talk about a myriad of things and I love to laugh and to make people laugh. You won't catch that on a posting board nor is our interaction as personal as even a conversation with a random grocery clerk (If they love their job, at least)
Though I live alone, I am not lonely. I never feel as if I am by myself in this world, even if Mom is gone and my sister lives out of state. Now that I am off for 4 weeks, I may become bored if I let myself, but I will really try not to rant or vent as it is unproductive for your Forum.
As I focus on bringing my blood sugars down and resting from my operation, I will try not only to be the "Phat of 10 years ago" but the new and improved version.
Yes, I have decided to back Trump. jars warning about Biblical Christians is coming true and I wont deny it any longer. I plan on focusing on thinking independently and am not simply another conservative lemming. Feel free to disagree, and hopefully we can have some decent discussions again.

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Percy
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Message 366 of 523 (919655)
07-20-2024 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 365 by Phat
07-20-2024 7:26 AM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
You just gave yet another perfect example of you not listening:
nwr writes in Message 1096 of thread 2024 US Presidential Election:
The progressives are a small minority of the political left. Yes, they are the part of the left that gets the most media attention. However, most of the left are not progressives.
nwr writes in Message 363:
You pay no attention to the ideas of others.
Phat writes in Message 364:
The progressives have to go back into hiding.
Engaging with you is pointless. Please get some help.
--Percy

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Phat
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Message 367 of 523 (919656)
07-20-2024 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 366 by Percy
07-20-2024 8:33 AM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
First off, I DID recall what nwr told me about the strict definition of progressive politically.
I DO pay attention to the ideas of others, though I do not necessarily agree with them
I just got off the phone with my sister and she asked me "I guess that means you are voting for Trump!" I told her that each election is a choice and that it is worse to not vote than it is to make a decision. On that note I have concluded that given a clear choice between ONLY Biden and ONLY Trump, Trump is more capable of deciding on a course of action rather than leaning on his wife and the party behind him to help govern.
In addition to that, I support shutting down the borders rather than letting everyone in. We have a lot of people who came in, and I agree with the idea that one has to earn citizenship rather than simply be granted it.(Just as there is a difference between letting somebody stay with you at your house yet not giving them a key or putting them on the list. The bottom line is that we (America) need educated people and/or journeymen who can help us build back better. We cant simply accept the poor impoverished masses and let them work, can we?
The 40,000 Venezuelans in Denver are by and large good people, but they are in gig jobs such as Door Dash and are not contributing to our government funding. (Please correct me if I am wrong, but I see it every day.)
Please Get Some Help.
I have a Urologist, An Endocrinologist,A Retinal specialist and a primary care physician. In addition, I have a counselor and support in my community. Im unsure what other help that I need, but am open to suggestions.
The bottom line is that the very nature of elections involve freedom to choose and perhaps the responsibility of living with that choice. My main point to the DNC is to offer us a better choice than Mr.Biden. Kamala Harris will be the next in line.Currently, reality suggests that she will be running the country in 2 years or so. I dont know much about her policies or her expertise.

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DrJones*
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Message 368 of 523 (919662)
07-20-2024 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by Phat
07-20-2024 9:22 AM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
On that note I have concluded that given a clear choice between ONLY Biden and ONLY Trump, Trump is more capable of deciding on a course of action rather than leaning on his wife and the party behind him to help govern
shitty white guy states his intention to vote for Trump, how shocking.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Theodoric
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Message 369 of 523 (919663)
07-20-2024 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 368 by DrJones*
07-20-2024 7:44 PM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
For misogynistic reasons. God forbid someone look to others for advice in order to make the right decision. Better to just make a snap decision with no input. Idiot.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up, why would you have to lie?


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nwr
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Message 370 of 523 (919664)
07-21-2024 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 369 by Theodoric
07-20-2024 9:22 PM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
Theodoric writes in Message 369:
God forbid someone look to others for advice in order to make the right decision. Better to just make a snap decision with no input.
That's pretty much what Phat practices. He makes snap decisions and posts about them here. And he mostly ignores any advice given.
Perhaps he does look at advice from his religious group or from grifters.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Percy
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Message 371 of 523 (919668)
07-21-2024 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 367 by Phat
07-20-2024 9:22 AM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
Phat writes:
First off, I DID recall what nwr told me about the strict definition of progressive politically.
I DO pay attention to the ideas of others, though I do not necessarily agree with them
You have provided no indication that you listeni to what others say. You're just saying this because it's what's expedient right now, not because there's any truth to it.
If you disagree with the facts nwr provided, which is what they were, facts, then you need some pretty good reasons for rejecting facts, namely counterevidence indicating that nwr was incorrect in stating the facts.
I just got off the phone with my sister and she asked me "I guess that means you are voting for Trump!" I told her that each election is a choice and that it is worse to not vote than it is to make a decision. On that note I have concluded that given a clear choice between ONLY Biden and ONLY Trump, Trump is more capable of deciding on a course of action rather than leaning on his wife and the party behind him to help govern.
Who, if elected, would be more likely to leave behind a functioning democracy at the beginning of 2029?
In addition to that, I support shutting down the borders rather than letting everyone in.
Why on God's Earth do you think we're "letting everyone in"?
We have a lot of people who came in, and I agree with the idea that one has to earn citizenship rather than simply be granted it.
Citizenship cannot merely be granted. You are an idiot.
The 40,000 Venezuelans in Denver are by and large good people, but they are in gig jobs such as Door Dash and are not contributing to our government funding. (Please correct me if I am wrong, but I see it every day.)
See what every day? Door Dash workers not paying taxes? You could not possibly observe that. You're just making up nonsense again.
Please Get Some Help.
I have a Urologist, An Endocrinologist,A Retinal specialist and a primary care physician. In addition, I have a counselor and support in my community. I'm unsure what other help that I need, but am open to suggestions.
If you listen to your doctors with the same attentiveness that you listen to people here, there is no way they could possibly help you. What was this probably completely avoidable operation that has you out of work for four weeks?
When someone has pancreatic cancer there is usually little they can do, but you have a very manageable disease, diabetes, but seem incompetent in dealing with it. This incompetency seems to extend to many aspects of your life.
The bottom line is that the very nature of elections involve freedom to choose and perhaps the responsibility of living with that choice.
Nothing anyone said could have prompted you to say this. Of course you have the right to choose who to vote for. You also have the right to choose to wallow in ignorance. You're doing a fine job with both.
My main point to the DNC is to offer us a better choice than Mr.Biden.
There are two parts to the the primary responsibility for the DNC: one is to provide a better candidate than Mr. Trump; the other is to provide a candidate who is electable. It would be impossible to find a worst candidate than Trump, so we can consider the first part accomplished already. The second part, electability, is more difficult and depends a great deal on the degree to which the American people recognize the threat to democracy that Trump represents.
--Percy

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dronestar
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Message 372 of 523 (919677)
07-22-2024 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by Phat
07-20-2024 9:22 AM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
quote:
Yes, I have decided to back Trump.
Ahh, so you have decided to support the rapist.
quote:
I just got off the phone with my sister . . .
Your public support of a rapist mandates the followup logical and legitimate question, . . . would you be upset if your sister was raped?

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Message 373 of 523 (919679)
07-22-2024 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 372 by dronestar
07-22-2024 12:19 PM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
. . . would you be upset if your sister was raped?
Apparently it depends on who the rapist is.
Like with the million or so people Trump wanted to die during COVID to achieve that illusionary "herd immunity" (which would have required 3 million deaths), and should happily sacrifice their lives in order to improve Trump's polling. The only person who matters to Trump is Trump himself; the rest of the human population is only there for his personal benefit.

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dronestar
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Message 374 of 523 (919680)
07-22-2024 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 373 by dwise1
07-22-2024 12:43 PM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
Apparently it depends on who the rapist is.
Well, not so fast, maybe it completely depends on who the rape victim is. You know, by his publicly repeated rants, I'd guess dark-skinned, non-christian immigrants?
But before we make rash conclusions, we should let the pro-rapist tell us who exactly who he wants to do the raping and/or which people he wants to be raped.
Let's be fair.

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PaulK
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Message 375 of 523 (919681)
07-22-2024 1:10 PM
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07-22-2024 12:56 PM


Re: Pennsylvania 6-5000
quote:
Well, not so fast, maybe it completely depends on who the rape victim is. You know, by his publicly repeated rants, I'd guess dark-skinned, non-christian immigrants?
Be fair. E. Jean Carroll is White.

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