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Theodoric
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Message 11 of 103 (677380)
10-29-2012 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by nwr
10-29-2012 10:02 AM


Re: An open message to foreveryoung
I don't think he hates you. He is a bit of a stickler for details and evidence.
Anyone can make claims and assertions. The proof is in the pudding if the person can back those up with facts and evidence. If they cannot then the argument is worthless and should be pointed out as such
FY makes lots of pronouncements and assertions. As of yet he has provided very little evidence. When pressed for evidence he lashes out with attacks, some personal, some at groups. If he can't back up his shit he shouldn't post it.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 12 of 103 (677381)
10-29-2012 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by CosmicChimp
10-29-2012 10:03 AM


Bio 101, PoliSci 101, Economics 101, Religion 101, Christianity 101, English 101, Finance 101
Hell he needs basic classes in just about everything but probably Geology.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 14 of 103 (677400)
10-29-2012 2:27 PM
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10-29-2012 2:22 PM


Me too. That is why I am assuming he doesn't need 101 classes in that one subject.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 18 of 103 (677419)
10-29-2012 3:25 PM
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10-29-2012 3:00 PM


ahhh, I see. Problem with written language. Needs to be much more precise than spoken. Thanks for the clarification. I hope everyone understands what I meant now.
Sorry for the lack of proper grammar to make my point clear.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 61 of 103 (677633)
10-31-2012 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by nwr
10-31-2012 10:53 AM


Re: Who cares
I'm not giving onifre a cheer, because of the tone of his post.
In this situation this seems to be the tone that is necessary. I think the tone is spot on. It is not incumbent upon us to be polite to someone that is incapable and refuses to be polite himself.
Tough love, baby.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 64 of 103 (677651)
10-31-2012 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Rahvin
10-31-2012 11:39 AM


Re: Who cares
One half way decent post after hundreds of crap and he gets a POTM? Have our standards sunk so low? Or are expectations so low of fundies that when they post one rational post they get a POTM?
People have been trying to be nice to him for months. He has been given lots of rope and hung himself numerous times. At times tough love is appropriate and does work. It is an integral part(not the telling to fuck off of course) of Love and Logic, which is a well respected parenting program. How does anyone learn if you just coddle?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 65 of 103 (677653)
10-31-2012 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Percy
10-31-2012 11:22 AM


Re: Who cares
I think I have been very restrained in my responses to this guy. Anytime he is pressed on his crap he lashes out. He is the one that persists in being a dick. Any benefit of the doubt was lost a long time ago. I applaud Oni in saying it as it is.
If Forever wants to have respectful debate there are a lot of us here that would be more than willing to join in. Hell that is why we come here.
If he doesnt want respectful debate he should find someplace else. One decent post does not excuse all the crap before.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 71 of 103 (677726)
11-01-2012 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Dr Adequate
11-01-2012 5:36 AM


Consequently I know a lot more creationist arguments than the average creationist, and a lot better, and am always ready to help them out when they recite their little lessons wrong.
I think this is true of most of us "evolutionists". I had been hearing and arguing against creationists arguments long before I found this site. This site helped me make my arguments stronger and pointed me toward both creo/fundie and scientific arguments The creo/fundie arguments are always ultimately laughable.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 84 of 103 (677804)
11-01-2012 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by foreveryoung
11-01-2012 12:21 PM


have you hear of the term PRATT?
Why should we consider arguments that are not scientifically valid?
Edited by Theodoric, : url

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 95 of 103 (679421)
11-13-2012 8:23 PM


Forevers recent comments have disqualified him from even being considered as a potentially rational person. His behavior is completely trollish and should be treated as such. I think we are not very far from him returning to the threatening behaviour he exhibited before that got him previously banned.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

  
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