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Message 9 of 103 (677340)
10-29-2012 10:02 AM


An open message to foreveryoung
(Note: I am not at all sure that this thread is a good idea. But, given that the thread is here, I shall try to make good use of it).
First, let me make clear that I don't hate you. If anything, I kind of like you. I think there's a decent person in there somewhere, hiding behind that external angry look.
You did not like what I wrote in Message 187 (the other thread). I did not expect you to like it. However, I was not trying to publicly humiliate you. I was trying to draw your attention to how you come across. I tried to make the same point, in a different way, in Message 194.
The thing to remember is that you can influence more people, more effectively, by setting a good example yourself. And you will probably live a happier life that way, too.
In any case, I could not publicly humiliate you, even if I wanted to. I do not know who you are, apart from your evcforum persona. Maybe you are my next door neighbor, or maybe you live half way around the world from me. There is no way that I could tell. You are probably somewhere in USA, but even that is a guess.
The Internet brings out the worst in people. I think it is the anonymity. So we see anger being poured out on the Internet by people who are probably much nicer in real life. I assume that is part of what is happening in your case. You are probably a lot less angry in real life than you are on the Internet. I am trying to encourage you to tone down your Internet persona to something more like the kind of person that you are in real life.
Incidentally, I don't care at all what your religious views are. Those are up to you. But I would like to see the decent person come out, instead of the angry young man that we are seeing in your posts.
By the way, if you happen to be a neighbor, then drop me a note and we can get together over a coffee at some time.
And, finally, a note about Theodoric. I don't think he hates you. He is a bit of a stickler for details and evidence. He has pressed me to support my claims in the past, and will probably do so in the future. But I don't read enmity into that, and neither should you. I'd say that he is a pretty fair minded person, and that if you post something that he thinks is of value, he will give you cheers for that.

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Message 21 of 103 (677425)
10-29-2012 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Larni
10-29-2012 4:01 PM


Am I going mad or do they mean the same thing?
Those are not mutually exclusive possibilities.
As for the statements - I noticed the same ambiguity.
The first reading emphasizes geology as the most important subject that needs to be studied.
The second reading excludes geology from what needs to be studied.

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Message 60 of 103 (677630)
10-31-2012 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by onifre
10-31-2012 10:16 AM


Re: Who cares
I'm not giving onifre a cheer, because of the tone of his post. But this part is about right:
No one here takes what you believe personally; we're just here to have fun discusions and to learn some as we go. State your position and defend it when it's challenged, that's all you have to do.

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Message 66 of 103 (677659)
10-31-2012 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Theodoric
10-31-2012 11:10 AM


Re: Who cares
It is not incumbent upon us to be polite to someone that is incapable and refuses to be polite himself.
I am reminded of the old story of a man who raised his hat to a passing woman (back in the day, it was polite for a gentleman to raise his hat for a lady).
  • "Why did you raise your hat? She is no lady."
  • "I raised my hat because I am a gentleman."
The tone that we set in our messages is about us. It is not about them (whoever the "them" happens to be).

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Message 82 of 103 (677795)
11-01-2012 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by foreveryoung
11-01-2012 12:21 PM


foreveryoung writes:
I have linked to articles about global warming. I have linked to articles about politics. As I remember, you guys blew them off as quickly as they were posted without due consideration in my opinion.
We had given these arguments consideration, long before you posted them.
Your mistake is to assume that we had never previously come across such arguments.

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Message 94 of 103 (679289)
11-13-2012 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Dogmafood
11-13-2012 12:27 AM


Dogmafood writes:
His jeers to me in the Where is the point? thread might mean a little more if I thought that he had actually read and comprehended whats been said.
With his spate of overnight jeers, inflation has set in. By now jeers from foreveryoung have become pretty much worthless.

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Message 98 of 103 (679461)
11-13-2012 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Omnivorous
11-13-2012 10:32 PM


Re: Agree/Disagree
Omnivorous writes:
Wouldn't Agree/Disagree be better?
I just use what we have. I'm not hung up on particular names.
I agree with many posts that I don't cheer, and I disagree with many posts that I don't jeer. I think we want these indicators to mean a bit more than routine agreement/disagreement.
I do like the way that they are displayed. And I do like the ability to take them back if we reconsider and change our minds.

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