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dronestar
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Message 16 of 58 (676826)
10-25-2012 12:26 PM
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10-25-2012 12:22 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Oni writes:
Did BBC cover up the kiddy sex or not?
Panda writes:
Well, Dronester already 'knows' the answer to that question...
I suppose until they dig up the deceased Savile and actually convict him with the crimes, it will always be rumours, suppositions and conjecture? (it seems the catholic church got a lot of mileage out of that policy too)

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Message 17 of 58 (676827)
10-25-2012 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by dronestar
10-25-2012 12:13 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Dronester writes:
quote:
The BBC, one of the world’s largest and most respected broadcasters, is under fire for failing to stop the abuse and for pulling an expose on Savile from TV schedules at the last minute in December.
Whoops, just found this from the BBC, but, not surprisingly, it doesn't state the BBC's involvement in the abuse:
And nor does your quote!
LOL - you really aren't good at this, are you.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 18 of 58 (676828)
10-25-2012 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by dronestar
10-25-2012 12:26 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Dronester writes:
I suppose until they dig up the deceased Savile and actually convict him with the crimes, it will always be rumours, suppositions and conjecture?
If that is what you think, then you are more of a fool than I thought - which is a surprise, as I thought you were already maxxed-out on being a fool.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 19 of 58 (676829)
10-25-2012 12:31 PM
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10-25-2012 12:22 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Seems an odd thing to rage about.
It was once contested by Straggler and Bluegenes that the BBC was not the sort of news source that would "cover up" stories. It was a good thread. I leaned to the Straggler/Bluegenes side of that equation but only because the BBC is by comparison to US news sources pretty damn good.
But I did see Dronester's points, which he did raise some good ones.
So a chance like this to show a possible cover up was what he was "raging about."
And what cover-up did the BBC do?
Well he's pulled up a few sources to show a potential cover-up, I'd say deal with that evidence. Whether he's right or wrong...
Well, Dronester already 'knows' the answer to that question...
He can answer for himself but I believe he feels they have done some covering up a-la Penn State style.
- Oni

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dronestar
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Message 20 of 58 (676831)
10-25-2012 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Panda
10-25-2012 12:29 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Panda writes:
LOL - you really aren't good at this, are you.
Says the man who NEEDED another participant to re-read and explain my original post using sock puppets.
It burns.

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Message 21 of 58 (676833)
10-25-2012 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by onifre
10-25-2012 12:31 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Dronester writes:
So a chance like this to show a possible cover up was what he was "raging about."
But he isn't showing a possible cover up - he is just shouting "Ner ner!" at the likes of Straggler and BG.
Dronester writes:
Well he's pulled up a few sources to show a potential cover-up, I'd say deal with that evidence.
He has provided no evidence in his post and none in the links he provided.
He won't even be explicit about what he is saying.
I have had a clearer definition of what he is accusing the BBC of from you.
But I don't expect Dronester to be specific.
He hides behind vague innuendo, so that he doesn't have to back up anything with evidence.
Dronester writes:
He can answer for himself but I believe he feels they have done some covering up a-la Penn State style.
Yup - always guilty before proved innocent with Dronester.
Why 'hate' with all the facts when you can 'hate' even more using none.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Panda
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Message 22 of 58 (676835)
10-25-2012 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by dronestar
10-25-2012 12:36 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Dronester writes:
Says the man who NEEDED another participant to re-read and explain my original post using sock puppets.
Says the man that NEEDED another participant to explain his original post to me - because he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Dronester writes:
It burns.
Then put down that picture of Kate Middleton and stop playing with it.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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dronestar
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Message 23 of 58 (676836)
10-25-2012 12:48 PM
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10-25-2012 12:44 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Panda writes:
Yup - always guilty before proved innocent with Dronester.
You would make an excellent lawyer for the catholic church.

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Message 24 of 58 (676837)
10-25-2012 12:51 PM
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10-25-2012 12:46 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Panda writes:
Says the man that NEEDED another participant to explain his original post to me - because he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Did Jar and CS need extra tutoring?
Or just you?

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Message 25 of 58 (676839)
10-25-2012 12:53 PM
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10-25-2012 12:46 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Then put down that picture of Kate Middleton and stop playing with it.

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jar
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Message 26 of 58 (676842)
10-25-2012 12:59 PM
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10-25-2012 12:51 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
It's just jar not Jar and did you read my reply? Let me repeat it for you and expand if necessary.
From Message 11:
quote:
Yes and yes.
Yes I still trust the BBC as a news source and Yes I think you are being silly to compare it to the Catholic Church.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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dronestar
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Message 27 of 58 (676850)
10-25-2012 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by jar
10-25-2012 12:59 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
jar writes:
Yes I still trust the BBC as a news source and Yes I think you are being silly to compare it to the Catholic Church.
jar (note the small 'j'),
Yes, I got your reply the first time. Thanks for understanding my original post, considering it with ample thoughtfulness, and then replying. It was one of our better and more pleasant communications on the forum. I look forward to more.

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Message 28 of 58 (676861)
10-25-2012 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by dronestar
10-25-2012 9:38 AM


Exposure
Wasn't it a BBC documentary that sought to expose this whole story? (a Newsnight documentary)
It was when that didn't get aired that the story really broke. Primarily broke on the BBC I might add.....
There was recently another BBC documentary (a Panorama documentary) investigating the reasons for the original Newsnight documentary being pulled. The present editor of Newsnight had to quit over that.
The whole thing has resulted in the BBC relentlessly reporting on itself. The BBC jouranlists seem to quite relish putting the boot into the leaders of the institution for which they work.
Here is a BBC interview with some old BBC stalwarts on the whole issue and the culture of the BBC in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klS3gw5Fqhs
Drone writes:
1. Do you still have the exact same admiration for the BBC as you had before and . . .
Sure. It's not perfect but it isn't a government mouthpiece and it isn't reporting news for commercial gain. That is rare and precious in this overly commercial and politicised world.
Drone writes:
2. am I silly for comparing the BBC to the Catholic church?
Yes. I think you are. The Catholic church was never going to expose it's own faults by broadcasting them to the world!!!
Maybe it's more like a scientific hoax. A hoax conducted by some scientists and then exposed as a hoax by other scientists......
Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

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Message 29 of 58 (676885)
10-25-2012 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by dronestar
10-25-2012 12:26 PM


Re: "a problem of culture within the BBC"
Dronester says:
I suppose until they dig up the deceased Savile and actually convict him with the crimes, it will always be rumours, suppositions and conjecture?
HAH! Wouldn't that be cool this Halloween season. Let's see them electrocute him live on the internet over & over for each victim.....
...or maybe that should read "dead on the internet"....
Edited by xongsmith, : addeadum
Edited by xongsmith, : No reason given.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 30 of 58 (676953)
10-26-2012 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Panda
10-25-2012 10:12 AM


No - you are just a hate-filled bigot who has no reluctance in using the suffering of abused women and children to further his own agenda.
So...how many people have worked at the BBC? How many of them were involved in the cover-up?
No answers? No facts? Nothing?
I thought not.
Just your usual ignorant bile.

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