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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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"Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner."
James Bovard The US is not a Democracy. It most closely resembles a Federal Republic.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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- I think you meant Venn diagrams? Probably he did, but I think I like his way better.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Theodoric writes: What are some key differences between these two? (I could google it, but want to hear your perspective )
The US is not a Democracy. It most closely resembles a Federal Republic.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Basic one line difference is that in a pure democracy is majority rules. No exceptions. In a republic there is a constitution(or charter) that limits the majority and provides for individual and minority rights. In a pure democracy individual and minority rights are not considered.
James Madison is probably the founder most responsible for advocating against "Tyranny of the Majority". The Federal part is that by splitting up the country into states would prevent a national majority form infringing the rights of a minority, because they would not necessarily be a majority in all states.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Has there ever even been a pure democracy?
You say the US isn't a democracy, but it is classified as one. I don't think "democracy" means "pure democracy".
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The US is only classified as a Democracy by the uniformed or when speaking colloquially. It has some democratic features but also those of a Republic and a Constitutional state.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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The US is only classified as a Democracy by the uniformed or when speaking colloquially. The Economist Intelligence Unit uses the Democracy Index to classify the United States, and 24 other countries, as a Full Democracy.
It has some democratic features but also those of a Republic and a Constitutional state. They include the qualities of federalism, constitutional republic, presidential system, and bicameralism within their classification as a democracy.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And as I said, it is speaking colloquially, informally and goes on to list more precise subdivisions.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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And as I said, it is speaking colloquially, informally and goes on to list more precise subdivisions. I wouldn't call a big company like that using an index like that to classify countries like that as being "colloquial". How much more formal could it get? Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Yet you provided a list of at least some of the various forms of government that it was including within the category. They are NOT using the term to describe any specific type of government but rather as an informal broad classification.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Actaully it is a formal broad classification. That's how the word Democracy is being used. Its not being used to mean pure democracy, as I said.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Formal broad classification?
LOL It is imprecise. It is vague. It is certainly not a description of the US system but certainly good enough for a bumper sticker. The problem is that the US population seems to be uneducated about our own Governmental system and describing it as a Democracy when the term is as vague as the one you reference simply allows people to avoid learning.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Formal broad classification? Yeah:
quote: LOL Laughing isn't an argument. It seems you're the one avoiding learning.
It is imprecise. It is vague. Yes, that is how the word "democracy" is used, as I've been saying.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As I said:
Formal broad classification? LOL It is imprecise. It is vague. It is certainly not a description of the US system but certainly good enough for a bumper sticker. The problem is that the US population seems to be uneducated about our own Governmental system and describing it as a Democracy when the term is as vague as the one you reference simply allows people to avoid learning. Please note the last sentence.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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As I replied:
Formal broad classification?
Yeah:
quote: LOL Laughing isn't an argument. It seems you're the one avoiding learning.
It is imprecise. It is vague. Yes, that is how the word "democracy" is used, as I've been saying. Please note your avoidance behavior.
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