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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
Tanypteryx
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Message 2986 of 3207 (896553)
08-12-2022 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 2980 by Dredge
08-12-2022 10:11 PM


Re: The Man In The Book
Sludge writes:
A higher power did let me know it exists with absolute evidence - I've experienced two miracles.
A yet there is no way for you to prove that is not total bullshit, so I don't believe you.
Sludge writes:
And how would you define "reality"?

Wait, let me guess ... reality is defined by the parameters of science.
Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "the parameters of science." You're not a very good guesser.
I think reality is everything that is not imaginary or supernatural.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 2988 of 3207 (896555)
08-12-2022 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2987 by Dredge
08-12-2022 10:50 PM


Re: The Man In The Book
Pete and repeat.
Sludge writes:
Wait, let me guess ... the parameters of science.
What are "the parameters of science?"

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 2995 of 3207 (896567)
08-13-2022 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 2993 by Phat
08-13-2022 12:46 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
So the parameters of science are everything that has to do with science, for short we can just call it science, parameters is just redundant.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 3010 of 3207 (896583)
08-13-2022 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 3005 by Dredge
08-13-2022 2:54 PM


Re: The Man In The Book
Sludge writes:
How do you determine what is "not imaginary or supernatural"?
I determine reality by what is detectable using the scientific method, leading to conclusions supported by observations and evidence. I'm not aware of any other reliable methods.
How do you determine reality?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 3011 of 3207 (896584)
08-13-2022 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 3008 by Percy
08-13-2022 5:42 PM


Re: The Man In The Book
I was thinking the smell of fresh baked bread before I got to it on your list! I remember smelling it when my mom set them to cool on an open window sill when I was a kid. Us kids fought for the heels and resented it when she gave loaves away. The crust was a bit crunchy...damn! She got the recipe from my dad's mother and her mother brought it from Sweden.
Stubbed toes should go on the bad list!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 3037 of 3207 (896633)
08-15-2022 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3035 by Phat
08-15-2022 5:07 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Phat writes:
Believers dont need evidence. They merely need inner confirmation. Perhaps this is why so few of you understand us.
I suspect that almost all unbelievers recognize and understand the rationalization of believers. Many of us grew up with exposure to religion and other supernatural beliefs.
In my case I attended Sunday school and Episcopal church with my mom, but my dad was an atheist. I learned all the biblical stories and at 12 I took classes for confirmation. I was really fascinated with ancient history and so I read the bible that year also. My Santa Claus fantasy had already primed my skepticism, but the absurdities in the bible were so obviously fiction, that I declared my atheism to my parents on the day I was forced to go through confirmation. My mom apologized years later for making my go through that. The church tried to recruit me as an alterboy the next week so I declared my atheism so forcefully to the priest that he told me to enjoy my Sundays elsewhere, and I always have.
I would have had to pretend to believe that there is a magical undetected realm in my head but that cannot be separated from a fantasy. And when I look at the behavior and character of almost all believers in your brand of religion it does not reflect comprehension of what the bible says and specifically what it says Christ did and said. I just hope I am never faced with having to declare belief in some religion in order to save my life from Christian or other fanatics. That's the future I see Republicans and the religious right striving to bring about in America.
ABE:
Phat writes:
Perhaps this is why so few of you understand us.
I think what we don't understand is adults that don't seem to have a Bullshit Filter.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 3040 of 3207 (896637)
08-15-2022 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 3039 by Dredge
08-15-2022 7:52 PM


Sludge writes:
ringo writes:
science is never about proof ...
A mutation is defined as a change in the DNA sequence of an organism. You can't "prove" a definition.
So you're saying science can't prove anything about DNA and genetics?
No, for fuck's sake!
Ringo's saying that science isn't even trying to prove anything, because science relies on supporting evidence, not proof.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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