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The $5,000,000 ID Research Challenge

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herebedragons
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Message 237 of 285 (735522)
08-16-2014 9:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 226 by Jackal32
08-14-2014 11:43 AM

Re: The hardware is the software
Hey Jackal32, It seems as if you are a one post wonder, but I'll make a quick comment.
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How would your research differ from what current scientists are doing with protein structure/function? And how could a measly $5 million get you anywhere with such a huge project?
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It appears that the structure determines the role.
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Yes, structure plays a significant role in function. It is not the whole of the story, but it is significant.
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This statement doesn't follow from your previous one. Software determines the role that the hardware plays. The same hardware can be used for different purposes depending on what software is loaded. The hardware/software concept is a poor analogy in this case.
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I suspect that you heard this concept somewhere and got confused as to how to apply it.
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HBD
Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
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"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
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Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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herebedragons
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08-16-2014 9:31 PM 		Reply to: Message 227 by New Cat's Eye
08-14-2014 11:57 AM

Re: The hardware is the software
The chemistry behind protein synthesis is fairly well understood, and it does happen spontaneously.
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I know what you are saying here, but to be fair, protein synthesis is a highly regulated process and to say "it happens spontaneously" ... just seems wrong to me.
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HBD
Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
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"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
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Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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herebedragons
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08-16-2014 9:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 235 by mram10
08-16-2014 5:33 PM

Re: the answer?
I enjoy your comments that add absolutely nothing to the conversation
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I would turn this around on you and ask what have you added to the conversation?
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HBD
Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
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"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
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Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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herebedragons
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09-22-2015 7:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 276 by Blue Jay
09-22-2015 11:37 AM

I hope this "new math" you plan to develop will also show us how you can cover $6,040,000 (+ "remaining amount") of research expenses with a $5,000,000 grant.
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That's not "new math"... it's the same math the government uses to balance their budget.
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HBD
Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
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"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
​
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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herebedragons
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Message 284 of 285 (769600)
09-22-2015 7:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 278 by MrIntelligentDesign
09-22-2015 5:17 PM

Re: No science yet ...
Mr ID writes:
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You must ask me to clarify before you post
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hmmmm... seems odd, but OK...
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Mr ID writes:
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I did the BEST science with less amount of money and I even published science books!
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Please clarify...
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Mr ID writes:
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TAKE NOTE: that your ideal science flow is not applicable to me.
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Please clarify...
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Mr ID writes:
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BUT there are more about my new discoveries...
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Please clarify...
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Oh, and everything else you have written so far...
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Please clarify...
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HBD
Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
​
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
​
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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