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Author Topic:   AiG's Strategy: Indoctrinate and Isolate
ReverendDG
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Message 15 of 79 (663648)
05-25-2012 8:28 PM
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05-25-2012 6:00 PM


Nor did I. And, upon reflection, I find nothing inconsistent with the idea that they genuinely believe their nonsense and, at the same time, are intending to bilk other believers.
hey when 99% of creationists lie, knowing lying is wrong and they have been told they are lying, i wouldn't put it past them to also steal from each other.
You know, I always got the same impression from Duane Gish.
they all seem to be like that, it must come with the fake ph,d's they get.

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ReverendDG
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Message 21 of 79 (663656)
05-25-2012 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by marc9000
05-25-2012 8:52 PM


Re: Folk like AIG are the best recruiters Atheism could possibly find.
People like Libby, Richard Dawkins, and countless others in science education seem to create that dichotomy also.
they do? could you show me somewhere anyone in science has said you either have to be an atheist or creationist nothing else?
or is that your perception because you believe that and are projecting?
i've never seen dawkins say you have to be either a creationist or an atheist, i have seen him harshly criticize christians who don't do anything to condemn their extreme members though.
heck i find some of the things dawkins says wrong, and i'm an atheist, i don't find "memes" to be that persuasive as a concept for instance.
creationists do on the other hand create that false dichotomy, mostly i've found because they believe in a war between darkness and light.
they are the light, us evil atheists are the darkness. and we are at war.

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ReverendDG
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Message 23 of 79 (663658)
05-25-2012 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by marc9000
05-25-2012 8:41 PM


That's not what they said. Just a different kind of education, one that realizes that science is just another imperfect human endeavor, that it's not the only source of knowledge. That there's no defined line where science stops and atheism starts.
yeah indoctrination in how to refuse to understand science and lie.
just because you can magic up another term for it, doesn't make it any less indoctrination meant to create a wall between the followers brain and the truth.
.. that science is just another imperfect human endeavor, that it's not the only source of knowledge.
see this is what i'm talking about, this is the type of thinking they are trying to indoctrinate into people, seems that includes you... this idea that in order to matter, be useful, or have correct answers it must reach impossible heights in order to matter, to useful or to have correct answers.
with that thinking that is only one thing, and science isn't attempting to usurp it, but the priests of creationism claim science is attempting to.
considering atheism is only one thing and it has nothing to do with science i don't know why you even make the absurd claim that science and it are connected in any way.
sure you can point to what science has found and draw the conclusion that your atheism is justified but so can everyone else for their own beliefs.
i guess i can assume that you think that unless science talks about god, it rejects god right? since that seems to be the only way creationists can think about science.

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