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Author Topic:   Creation cosmology and the Big Bang
frako
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Message 177 of 305 (666001)
06-20-2012 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by zaius137
06-20-2012 2:33 PM


Re: Big Bang violates physics
If you are truly a rationalist, you cannot embrace a philosophical principle. Any accepted principle that violates basic laws of physics is not scientific and must be considered philosophical (if not religious). Cosmology of the Big Bang lacks the well-known basics of the conservation of energy so it is not materialistic.
— – Loan Portal28
Try this site it should provide a simple enough to make you understand why the big bang does not violate conservation of energy.
Basicly if you add everything up there is no energy, it all adds up to 0. So no violation of conservation of energy because no energy was created or destroyed, nothing was just split in to its positive and negative counterparts but if you add them up its still nothing.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 182 of 305 (666024)
06-21-2012 6:29 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by zaius137
06-20-2012 7:31 PM


Re: Big Bang violates physics
I read the article and concede the explanation sounds reasonable except that the magnitude of energy from quantum fluctuation is greater than the dark energy proposal. As we understand it, quantum fluctuations are not a reasonable explanation for the vacuum energy. Account for that vacuum energy in real numbers by established quantum predictions and your nomination for the next Nobel Prize in physics is assured.
Total energy conservation in the Big Bang is a myth.
Well i call on the anthropic principle, there are 10 to the 500 power of possible universes and each can have a different value for dark energy if the value of ours was grater it would overpower gravity and we would not be here to talk about how it all began.
But the thing is if you dont like the big bang theory because it offends your bible then you have to find a noter explanation for what we observe.
Like the expansion of the universe
Cosmic microwave background radiation
The abundance of light elements
This is what the big bang theory explains and there is no contesting theory well except magic man dun it.

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frako
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Message 188 of 305 (666186)
06-23-2012 2:26 PM
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06-23-2012 3:17 AM


Re: Big Bang violates physics
Incorrect Carmeli’s 5d model or even Plasma Red Shift cosmology.
Never heard of the 5d model and google cant find anything on it, and plasma red shift has been known to be wrong for decades just like creationism. The problems you posted about big bang have already been addressed.
As for the multiverse hypothesis yes it cant be tested but 3 independent fields point to it and usually when that happens something about the hypothesis must be right.

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