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Message 117 of 276 (568995)
07-19-2010 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Big_Al35
07-19-2010 6:46 AM


More of Big Al's fairy tales
More usually however, there is overwhelming evidence for a successful legal challenge but the perpetrator still goes acquitted due to technicalities, poor lawyers, costs, or a failure to interpret the evidence.
Actually, it's quite unusual for a criminal case to be thrown out on a technicality, and I've never heard of a criminal case with overwhelming evidence being dismissed because of the cost. Poor lawyering skills are much more likely to result in a flawed conviction than an acquittal in the face of overwhelming evidence. It's also quite rare for a jury to misinterpret overwhelming evidence.
There really is no limit to the shit you're willing to just make up, is there?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 125 of 276 (569174)
07-20-2010 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Big_Al35
07-20-2010 8:56 AM


Re: Clarity
This chart shows total state criminal prosecutions for 2005. This article estimates that 150,000 cases are dropped every year because of illegally seized evidence. As you can see, 150,000 is fewer than the total prosecutions for just the state of Wisconsin. Obviously, in terms of total prosecutions, it's a small fraction.
Your turn, and I won't hold my breath, dickhead.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 135 of 276 (569268)
07-21-2010 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by Big_Al35
07-21-2010 6:39 AM


Re: Clarity
To summarize:
I called bullshit on some nonsense you made up about guilty people going free. Others asked you for evidence for the bullshit you made up. You turned that demand for evidence around to point it at me. I provided evidence, then asked you to do the same. You didn't.
Did I miss anything?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 142 of 276 (569353)
07-21-2010 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Big_Al35
07-21-2010 12:52 PM


Re: Clarity
I don't really see anyone providing proof of anything here.
Wow. In addition to simply making up bullshit, you're also ignoring the evidence in Message 125 produced to show that your bullshit is bullshit. You're raising bad faith debating to a new level. Grats!

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 146 of 276 (569399)
07-21-2010 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by Big_Al35
07-21-2010 2:43 PM


Re: Clarity
This bullshit....erm....evidence supports my claim! I don't expect you to understand that mind.
Well, you're going to have to explain to me how evidence that the exclusionary rule results in dismissal of a very small fraction of prosecutions supports your claim that "More usually however, there is overwhelming evidence for a successful legal challenge but the perpetrator still goes acquitted due to technicalities."

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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subbie
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Message 150 of 276 (569571)
07-22-2010 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Big_Al35
07-22-2010 6:38 AM


Re: Clarity
No, I don't have to explain this because apart from anything else it is off topic.
But you're the one who brought it into the discussion in the first place. So, to summarize again:
You make up some bullshit that's off topic. I point out your bullshit is bullshit, and others ask you to provide evidence of your bullshit. You turn that back around on me and ask me to provide evidence that your bullshit is bullshit. I do that, then again ask you to provide your evidence. You again refuse and try to abandon the point by complaining that it's off topic.
Seriously, Slick, you could challenge Buzsaw for the title of worst EvC poster evaaaaaaaaaaar!

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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