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Panda
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Message 15 of 87 (656898)
03-22-2012 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by frako
03-22-2012 8:32 PM


frako writes:
Making yourself to "heavy" to lift
Centre of gravity we humans can easily shift our centre of gravity to all sorts of positions placing your centre of gravity low and away from your body you can make it significantly harder for someone to lift you.
It is easier than that.
You just need to turn yourself into a 'dead weight'.
An unconscious person is considerably more difficult to lift than a conscious person - unless you use a suitable lifting technique (e.g. a fireman's lift).
You can make yourself almost impossible to lift simply by relaxing your body.
tbh: all the tricks I have seen martial artists do are exactly that: tricks.
Ranging from chopping bricks in half through to 'extraordinary strength' - all illusions.

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Panda
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Message 17 of 87 (656921)
03-23-2012 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Kairyu
03-23-2012 5:07 AM


Dumb TV
I used to watch Mind, Body & Kick Ass Moves for the lols.
The presenter went around the world to watch these martial art tricks (with a non-critical eye).
I particularly liked the kung fu master that could pull his testicles into his body.
He stood there and went *Hrmph!* "Now feel my crotch!"
Then the presenter felt his crotch and said "Wow! They are not there!"
Then the master went *Hrmph!* "Now they are back!"
I can do this trick too:
"I have a dragon under my left hand!"
*Hrmph!* "Now it is gone! Look!" *turns over left hand*
The ki is strong in this one!
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Panda
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Message 22 of 87 (657154)
03-26-2012 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by goldenlightArchangel
03-26-2012 11:08 AM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Do you think that what you post makes sense to anyone?
I know it doesn't make sense to you as you do not speak English.
But maybe you have some English speaking friends that could look at what you are posting?

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Panda
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Message 24 of 87 (657221)
03-26-2012 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by goldenlightArchangel
03-26-2012 5:54 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
CD7 writes:
Panda writes:
But maybe you have some English speaking friends that could look at what you are posting?
Perhaps what has often been found is a Panda that does not like the unusual since Pandas are more oriental by nature and are accustomed to the oriental way.
So, that is a 'No' then.
Please - go find someone that speaks your own language AND English.
Ask them for help.
You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
English.
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Panda
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Message 26 of 87 (657293)
03-27-2012 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by goldenlightArchangel
03-26-2012 5:54 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
CD7 writes:
Grammatical errors were not found.
You cannot find grammatical errors because you do not speak English.
quote:
The above Graph puts an end to the dualities when a French man, whether Ren Descartes or a Matrix program
'Graph' should not be capitalised.
There is no graph above that sentence. (The word you should have used is 'chart'.)
'Matrix program' is not a French man.
3 grammatical errors in half a sentence.
You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
English.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Panda
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Message 29 of 87 (657466)
03-28-2012 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by goldenlightArchangel
03-28-2012 4:04 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
CD7 writes:
If I was a panda I wish I could speak, and I wish I could perhaps write short sentences using several dots like 'you[.] do[.] know[.]', no matter how many grammatical shakedowns would occur around the world since the importance is that, by using dots in a sequence that indicate a pause after every word, the person who reads will take a time to achieve meditation through the panda energy.
You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
English.

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Panda
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Message 48 of 87 (657885)
03-31-2012 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by dwise1
03-31-2012 3:07 AM


Re: Dumb TV
dwise1 writes:
Yeah, I've heard about that. Though my sole source is Ian Fleming's You Only Live Twice
Ah yes, Iam Fleming.
Famous for such astounding facts such as homosexuals being unable to whistle.
dwise1 writes:
Now, how self-aware are you?
I am aware enough to know if my balls went up inside my body!
dwise1 writes:
Because of the range of temperatures that are needed for the formation of sperm, the male body automatically regulates how far down the testicles are allowed to dangle.
Yes. How far down they dangle. But never pulled up into the body.
If they did do that, then every man (and most women) would have witnessed it.
Do you not have a pair? Have they ever gone up into your body? No. They haven't.
dwise1 writes:
The sumo wrestler training that Ian Fleming mentioned appears to be a conscious control over that same physical mechanism.
Hahaha!
No, the sumo wrestler didn't have conscious control over his testicles!
BECAUSE HE DIDN'T EXIST!!
Seriously? You think that James Bond is a documentary?
Go on.
Try and find a single occurrence of testicles being intentionally pulled up into the body.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Panda
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Message 51 of 87 (657929)
04-01-2012 6:21 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by dwise1
04-01-2012 5:37 AM


Obvious
dwise1 writes:
Panda was claiming that such claims are due to trickery by the martial arts schools' teachers. That is was all nothing but fakery.
Your complaint that 'techniques' are not 'tricks' is simply an equivocation.
Card tricks are based on practice, technique, education, muscle memory, etc. They are techniques (as well as being tricks).
The point where a card technique becomes a card trick is when it is 'sold' as magic.
It is the point where the audience (often willingly) suspends disbelief and believes it is slightly supernatural.
This point (where technique becomes trick) is crossed by martial artists when they claim that ki exists.
That point is also crossed by martial artists who claim they can cut a brick in half with their hands; pull their balls into their body or punch through a stack of concrete slabs - claiming that they are using ki.
I have cut a brick in half with my hand; punched through a stack of concrete slabs and also made myself 'too heavy to lift' - and I can confirm that I didn't use ki.
(I'll tell you the secret....I used physics!)
Perhaps you should try applying the same critical thinking to ki as you do to religion.

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Panda
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Message 52 of 87 (657931)
04-01-2012 6:38 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by dwise1
04-01-2012 5:58 AM


Re: Dumb TV
dwise writes:
With all due respect, fully intended in the Woody-Allen sense, you fucking idiot!
Says the man that believes in ki. LOL.
dwise1 writes:
Yes, I did identify Ian Fleming's new novel, You Only Live Twice, as the only other source of this claim. Because that was true.
Just a niggle - but 'new' novel? Published in 1964?
And are also you going to claim he has "done at least some minimal amount of research" to show that homosexuals can't whistle?
dwise1 writes:
OK, during embryonic development, the gonads originally form within the abdomen and then later, in the males, descend down into the scrotum. The abdomenal wall does not always close up properly in that process, in which case a male will have an inguinal hernia, such as I had on my right side that had to be repaired when I was 10 years old (much later, another kid's inguinal hernias were describe as being "big enough to drive a truck through"). So in the scenario of being able to retract one's testicles into one's body would necessarily be restricted by that sealing up of the abdomenal wall.
Good. We agree that it has nothing to do with ki at all.
dwise1 writes:
OK what I was describing was that there are muscles present and those muscles do regulate the degree of the dangle (not to be confused with the angle of the dangle). And I can personally state, with absolutely no amount of training having been involved, that I am able to draw my own testicles up towards my body by an inch or two. I can consciously draw them up toward my body. And I do not doubt that, were you to attempt it yourself, you would also be able to do the same. The muscles are there. The muscles can be controlled by our minds. And that is all that I was actually claiming.
And I bet you can jump closer to the moon by a couple of feet.
With practice do you think that you can jump all the way to the moon?
You were defending to false claim that people could pull their balls up into their bodies.
It now seems you wish to retract that claim and instead claim that people can make their balls move. /golfclap
dwise1 writes:
Of course, all you want to do is to talk through your ass.
I would have to be a ki master in front of a gullible student to do that trick.

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Panda
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Message 55 of 87 (657992)
04-01-2012 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by dwise1
04-01-2012 2:39 PM


Re: Dumb TV
dwise1 writes:
Panda writes:
Just a niggle - but 'new' novel? Published in 1964?
Yes, which is when I read it. Duh?
Do you think that because it was published in 1964 and because you read it in 1964, it is therefore 'new'?
What has gone wrong with your brain?
At least you've stopped claiming that Ian Fleming is a reliable source of information.
dwise1 writes:
No gullible students in our dojo.
Well, that is what your sensei told you....
dwise1 writes:
The situation that you describe would be one where the instructor demonstrates something that depends on trickery and promises the students that if they study under him for several years then they too can do it.
Correct.
And it seems he did exactly that.
He called it Qi.
dwise1 writes:
But in Aikido that didn't happen. From the very start the instructor taught the students the techniques that he used in his demonstration and the students learned to use those techniques successfully as I already described in Message 43. If the instructor's demonstrations were based on trickery, then that would not be possible unless, like a magician's apprentice, they also employ trickery. That is not the case.
He taught you how to fall over without hurting yourself and then convinced you that it was qi.
He taught you how to not cry out when hurt and then convinced you it was qi.
Congratulations!
It seems you have a religion.
dwise1 writes:
If you insist of continuing to speak through your ass, then do please do something about your breath!
I am thinking that your continued puerile ad hominems are due to your embarrassing lack of any actual argument to support your claims.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda
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Message 60 of 87 (658053)
04-02-2012 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by dwise1
04-02-2012 12:57 AM


Re: Dumb TV
dwise1 writes:
Panda writes:
I am thinking that your continued puerile ad hominems are due to your embarrassing lack of any actual argument to support your claims.
Boy, that is really rich coming from you! What an idiot! Take a good look in the mirror!
dwise1 writes:
OK, idiot, let's try this one more time.
dwise1 writes:
But, no, you will continue to embrace your abject ignorance and to engage in ad hominem attacks. You will continue to speak out your ass, which I understand is the proper term for what you persist in doing.
The irony is strong in this one!
dwise1 writes:
Now consider the case of a phony martial artist performing incredible feats, but by employing fakery. He takes on students promising to be able to teach them to do the same eventually, but he never passes on to any of them how to fake it, what the phony trick is. Without that knowledge, it is impossible to perform any of those incredible feats; only by knowing how to fake those phony feats could any student even hope to repeat said feats. Are you able to understand that simple concept?
And I can do all the tricks your sensei taught you, but without using ki.
Are you able to understand that simple fact which contradicts your claims of ki existing?
dwise1 writes:
In Aikido, we were never taught how to fake the feats that I had described. Nonetheless, we were all able to perform those feats. Had those feats been phony and dependent on fakery, then that would have been impossible. Therefore, those feats were not phony. Are you able to understand that simple logical deduction?
And I can do all the tricks your sensei taught you, but without using ki.
Are you able to understand the simple logical position that if those tricks are not dependent on ki then there is no evidence of ki existing?
tbh, this has already been covered by the other posters in this thread.
But you have avoided answering them.
Instead you have thrown childish insults around.
The points debated in your posts have got fewer and fewer as you realise that you are unable to offer any kind of support for your assertions.
But rather than accept your mistakes, you have pretended they never happened.
(Are you still claiming that people can pull their balls up in to their body because Ian Fleming says so? No. You've conveniently forgotten that stupid claim.)
You really need to do better.

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Panda
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Message 78 of 87 (658905)
04-10-2012 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by goldenlightArchangel
04-10-2012 5:09 PM


Re: Access to life energy Shortest distance between two points: Simultaneity
Who taught you English and why did they hate you?

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Message 80 of 87 (658967)
04-11-2012 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by PurpleYouko
04-11-2012 11:03 AM


Re: Access to life energy Shortest distance between two points: Simultaneity
PurpleYouko writes:
I thought it was some strange dialect of gibberish.
I haven't understood a single word of any of his posts in this thread.
I think he uses something like Google Translate.
But what I find incredible is the extreme confidence that CD7 has in his written English.
Despite him clearly having to rely on translation software, he triumphantly claims "Grammatical errors were not found." - which, ironically, contains grammatical errors.
He can't accept that the posts he writes are flawed because they are not in his native language.
Instead he clings to the delusion that he is fluently bilingual.

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Panda
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Message 84 of 87 (659186)
04-13-2012 9:27 AM


Pink Floyd
CD7 quoting Pink Floyd writes:
And no one crosses there alive
No one speaks and no one tries
For some reason, nutters posting gibberish on this forum are often also posting Pink Floyd song lyrics - sometimes using it as a kind of evidence.
So, if I can't beat them - I'll join them:
quote:
Crazy Diamond's posts are complete bollocks. [Pink Floyd]
(I am not certain which song that phrase is from ... but I am sure they have said it ... but if they haven't they would, if they saw CD7's posts.)

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