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NoNukes
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Message 19 of 358 (645216)
12-24-2011 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Chuck77
12-24-2011 4:49 AM


So now, you believe life can arise from non-matter? Show the evidence supporting this.
What seems particularly ironic about this, is that the theory of evolution says nothing about how life arose, but Genesis says that life was created directly from dirt.
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509 writes:
also, the Cambrian explosion is quite a problem in the fossil record...Message 52
So now, it's not?
Surely by now you've heard the answer to this question. Short version, nothing in the fossil record is a problem for the theory of evolution.

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NoNukes
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Message 171 of 358 (646243)
01-03-2012 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Tangle
01-03-2012 11:52 AM


Re: Unanswered Whys Of Science
You have all this the wrong way around. Science - and particularly ToE - says nothing at all about God or creation. It does not have an atheistic position that it's trying to prove
I wouldn't limit this to particularly the theory of evolution. Geologists, astronomers, paleontologists, electrical engineers, as well as biologists as a group have no goals directed towards saying anything about God. The idea that that the typical scientist isn't just trying to do their his or her job of finding oil, trying to make semiconductor devices work, studying the cosmos, etc. seems akin to paranoia to me.
It's not science's fault or issue that a sizeable minority of people hold contrary, unscientific religious beliefs. If science fails to be neutral to religion, it is in the same way that journalists are not neutral to astrology when they report events that are contrary to horoscopes.
I wonder what the non-quantum theory, religion friendly explanation for how zener diodes and transistor devices work might be, and when we might see new semiconductor devices that use the principle behind this explanation.

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NoNukes
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Message 177 of 358 (646279)
01-03-2012 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by Rahvin
01-03-2012 8:14 PM


Re: Unanswered Whys Of Science
It's not science's fault or issue that a sizeable minority of people hold contrary, unscientific religious beliefs.
Your optimism vastly exceeds my own.[/qs]
While many people hold unscientific beliefs, only a few special people believe that quantum mechanics is a conspiracy against God.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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