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Straggler
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Message 145 of 358 (646098)
01-03-2012 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by RAZD
01-02-2012 11:33 PM


Why Questions How Questions
RAZ you are being silly. The fact is science can and does ask 'Why' questions all the time. Even the the definition of "Why" you provide doesn't stipulate that conscious intent be behind reason or cause. So a question like: Why are plants green? - Is a perfectly legitimate scientific question. How are plants green? doesn't make nearly as much sense as a question does it?
Why are you defining 'why' as necessarily entailing intent of some kind when it is frequently and perfectly legitimately used to query reason or cause where there is no intent involved?
Why are you subscribing to Dawn's rather silly approach to such questions? DB has enough issues without you joining in the semantic lunacy.
Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

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Message 162 of 358 (646129)
01-03-2012 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by mike the wiz
01-03-2012 10:12 AM


Re: Unanswered Whys Of Science
MtW writes:
If there is a God we would expect to see good design. I have shown this.
I am intrigued as to what you think the world would look like if there wasn't a god?
How can we differentiate between a designed world and an undesigned one?

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Message 167 of 358 (646134)
01-03-2012 11:05 AM
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01-03-2012 10:58 AM


Re: Unanswered Whys Of Science
Well let's put aside wider questions like good and evil etc. Let's just focus on the design question posed in this thread.
You say good design is indicative of a designer. So what sort of bad design would be present in the absence of such a designer?
Do you think (for example) the human body is an example of good design? What would a badly designed (or undesigned) equivalent look like?
What would the world look like if there was no intelligent design in your view?

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Message 236 of 358 (647209)
01-08-2012 4:08 PM
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01-07-2012 2:59 PM


Re: Why Questions How Questions

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