Dawn Bertot writes:
Outside of scripture and other texts, we are all in the same boat about the why and how of things
What has fanaticism, be it religious, political, or personal ever shown anyone on earth throughout history how anything worked?
So no Jar, there is not "Evidence" of the causes of things, as you are trying to imply, there is only evidence that things are in existence. There is big difference between what the facts actually are and what you are intimating
Outside of scripture and other texts, we are all in the same boat about the why and how of things
That being the case, causation falls to a simple logical proposition of possiblities, of which Id and creation are very much a part of those considerations
Both should be taught in the science classroom
Why should your minority (and in the vast majority of all Christians, adherents to other religions, and the actual vast majority of all people on earth) interpretation be forced upon all?
So, I am curious. Now that satellites are close to able to establish parallax beyond any 6k distance of stars, are the fanatics going to turn against mathematics and try to prevent the teaching of trigonometry?
I am on to your game, I have actually studied the source of your obvious hatred of science or any other human endeavor that does not fit within the model of the 'great leader' that is stealing your soul.
Protestant, my ass. Martin Luther (despite his antisemitic influence on Hitler along with others) told you to read the Bible and think for yourself.
No, instead we have self-appointed messiahs that state flat out the only way to God is through them.
So which are you?
Seventh, and worship White and Miller (didn't any one notice he got it wrong twice, what? three times a charm?) over Jesus and God. I notice that there is little to no New Testament, did Miller and White specifically set this thing up to reject Jesus and hate on science.
Orthodox Judaism doesn't need intermediaries or pretenders.
Pentecosts. What can be said? Let me tell you a story.
My grandmother was a bit off and in her advanced years appeared starved for attention despite the fact my father visited her every day or so. Nevertheless somehow some door to door Pentecosts got hold of her need for attention. Sure enough, she wound up in their hangout promising all her resources to her new fake friends. Well the old man and his two brothers caught wind of this and decided it was their responsibility to save their mother over those who would save them for personal profit in Jesus' name. Considering that my dad worked for the mob during the prohibition along with his siblings, one of which had a bad attitude due to prison, they made rather short work of the congregation.
So much for the Pentecosts.
OK, how about Jehovah's Witnesses? Have not seen much of them since they gave up on the annoying door-to-door crap since the 60s and early 70s. My dad's friend actually whipped out a 12 gauge and told them that if they ever set foot on his property again, they would be carrying a load of buckshot. BTW, this was in Anaheim.
I wasn't that mean, I just told them I was Buddhist and they left me alone.
Now what is the problem with science that some Baptists have? These self-righteous assholes are perhaps the largest threat to Christianity, reason, democracy, human rights, everyone who is not Baptist, and pretty much everyone on earth.
That being said, some Baptists are pretty cool. At least they have a thing about Jesus (for them, Jesus is God). The problem is that they forgot their heritage in order to gain political power. Now this compromise with the state has resulted
The Baptist church is an offshoot of the Mennonites (who don't mess with science, they believe in let live and live) and some individual preachers who stuck with interpreting scripture over a desire to overthrow temporal kingdoms. Originally, it was the laity, given their belief in the essential tenets of Protestantism, that ruled the church, much like the Presbyterians. However, over time, much to the eternal shame of the Baptists, not only did the Southern Baptist church wind up splitting with the Baptist church over their support of slavery, they denied their heritage of the congregation deciding upon the pastor. Today, we have the anointed fuhrer of the southern baptist church!
So considering you have a religious 'reason' to be against reason science and indeed Christian charity, which one are you?
Most Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, along with Episcopalians, Methodists, and Presbyterians, along with other adherents of various religions and atheists and agnostics are not against science and reason. Even Baptists, who know about and respect their heritage, and are properly ashamed about their past support of slavery and current support of theocracy among those who claim to speak for God, agree.
So, in rejecting the message of Jesus, along with Laoste, Buddha, Muhammad, Krishna, Socrates, and the recently and deservedly recognized founder of the enlightenment Baruch Spinoza, I must ask.
Are you a troll?
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