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Author Topic:   "If I descended from an ape, how come apes are still here?"
frako
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Message 39 of 286 (637210)
10-14-2011 5:05 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Chuck77
10-14-2011 3:21 AM


Re: He's no atheist
Tangle writes:
As it happens, it looks like I've picked the wrong story; science doesn't yet have the chimp line story sorted out at all. No intermediates between chimp and the common ancestor and no bloody common ancestor to hold hands with. Pity.
Im sorry but that doesn't seem like something an evolutionist or an atheist would say at all.
It seems to me you are arguing against evolution here. Are you not?
Thats like arguing well we dont know who your grate grandfather was there are no pictures, no birth certificate, no nothing, so the theory of common descent is wrong and clearly your grandfather was poofed into exsistance fully formed by a magic man up in the sky.
Its not an argument against evolution if we are missing an evaluational link between 2 species its a prediction that will eventually come true as it has so many times proving evolution right. The same way if we put our backs in to it we would eventually find some evidence for your grate grandfathers exsistance.

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frako
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Message 207 of 286 (656990)
03-24-2012 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Big_Al35
03-23-2012 8:50 AM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
No, my original point was that the fossil ancestors discovered have dimensions that often fall well within the range of modern humans.
My point was that the evidence that RAZD provided was unacceptable. If he has some real evidence perhaps he could share it with us. Perhaps he would like to start by giving us the full range of variation amongst the present human population.
White mans skull
Black mans skull
Asian man skull
Homo erectus Skull
Yea its just normal variation you can plainly see rofl

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frako
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Message 209 of 286 (656998)
03-24-2012 1:38 PM
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03-24-2012 1:18 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
U sure? What post?
A noter H erectus for you
So what do you think does this account for you variation within kinds theory?
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 211 of 286 (657000)
03-24-2012 2:25 PM
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03-24-2012 2:01 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
look again

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Message 215 of 286 (657007)
03-24-2012 3:13 PM
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03-24-2012 2:54 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
Not very scientific!
Says the creationist hehehe

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Message 220 of 286 (657015)
03-24-2012 3:36 PM
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03-24-2012 2:54 PM


Re: Getting Back On Topic
It appears anyone can just dig up any old set of bones and within limits claim that it is homo erectus
Thing is nature and evolution does not work the way you think it does it does not put things in neat little boxes.
Say you see someone that has skin webbing between his fingers is he still human or is he alredy homo sapiens natator (swimmer)
Say that this child is born on an island and slowly this trait of webbed fingers becomes domminant in the population because it allows them to swimm better and collect more food thus having more wives and more children....
Are they now homo sapiens natator
Say a noter child is borne whitin this population that has gills or gill like organs allowing him to breathe under water
Is he now homo sapiens natator
And when the population of this island all have gills or gill like organs are they now homo sapiens natator?
And if a group of these people decide to rather stay under watter because its more productive or whatever and evolve under the same pressure of better swimming more offspring at what point do they cease to be homo sapiens and become homo sapiens natator

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