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Author Topic:   September, 2011, Posts of the Month
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Message 1 of 20 (631650)
09-02-2011 8:19 AM


When you find a post that is too good to be missed, nominate it here as one of the September, 2011, Posts of the Month (POTM).
You message subtitle should include the author's name and the topic/thread title.
Message Format:
Author: Author's Name
Forum: Forum where posted
Thread: Thread title
Message #: Number and Link to the nominated message
Nominations should include a link to the nominated article, and a short comment on why the message deserves nomination.
Note: As always, this is not a thread for debates. Posts should be limited to nomination, seconds, congratulations, and acceptance statements by nominees.

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Message 2 of 20 (631656)
09-02-2011 8:40 AM


Percy in Problems of the Big Bang
Percy, Message 329 in The problems of big bang theory. What are they? Big Bang and Cosmology.
Excellent explanation of why it is futile to try and have a meaningful discussion with some people.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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Message 3 of 20 (631660)
09-02-2011 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by fearandloathing
09-02-2011 8:40 AM


Re: Percy in Problems of the Big Bang
Seconded - but perhaps biased because of my recent 'ignore' of IamJoseph and Alfred Maddenstein.

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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Message 4 of 20 (631864)
09-03-2011 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by fearandloathing
09-02-2011 8:40 AM


Re: Percy in Problems of the Big Bang
I'll go along with that.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 5 of 20 (632245)
09-06-2011 3:31 PM


I dont know
delete
Edited by 1.61803, : wrong topic

  
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Message 6 of 20 (632691)
09-09-2011 1:57 PM


Author: Jazzns
Forum: Bible Study
Thread: Do Christians Worship Different Gods?
Message #: Message 172
Fucking bravo, Jazz. A post like this, IMO, holds FAR more weight coming from a recent de-convert than ANY long established atheist. You continue to impress with every post.
I would quote a portion, but it's all bloody remarkable.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 7 of 20 (632706)
09-09-2011 2:48 PM
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09-09-2011 1:57 PM


I appreciate it very much hooah. Its fun to debate but more satisfying knowing that others recieved value as well.

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

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Message 8 of 20 (634373)
09-21-2011 3:48 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Panda
09-02-2011 9:09 AM


Re: Percy in Problems of the Big Bang
My friend, if I can easily decipher IamJoseph's message while the rest of you are having difficulties with it is not surprising at all. It does not mean that I endorse his position though. I may not. Yet what he is telling you comes across loud and clear: "You lot can't eat your cake and have it still. If you want to have a universe bounded in time, a universe that started from a singularity, either the creator is implied, or you are peddling a Baron Mnchhausen tale." He is saying: "I am a creationist and I admit it openly. You lot are closet creationists, I am helping you out of your closets and I expect thanks instead of the crass ingratitude you exhibit towards me here." He is telling you that he and his Bible are logically consistent where you and your consensus-nonsensus cosmology are not. You know that full well too so hate the guts of the message and scapegoat its style.
You see, I can very well understand how much you hate his message and why all you pretend to find in it are the idiosyncrasies of his personal style.
No fooling Alfred and his old Cheshire cat with all your futile pretence to science, I am afraid.

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Message 9 of 20 (634394)
09-21-2011 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Alfred Maddenstein
09-21-2011 3:48 AM


Re: Percy in Problems of the Big Bang
This isn't a discussion thread. It's for nominations for Post of the Month, for seconds, for congratulations, for gracious thanks, but not for discussion. If you have something you'd like to discuss with Panda then send him a PM. If you'd like to discuss it more widely then start a new thread in the Coffee House. As it happens, this topic already has a thread: Do creationists actually understand their own arguments?
--Percy

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Message 10 of 20 (634477)
09-22-2011 1:42 AM


Straggler, at "Scientific Knowledge"
Author: Straggler
Forum: Coffee House
Thread: Scientific Knowledge
Message #: 69
Any use of the term "know" that entails absolute 100% certainty (i.e. the 1 and 7 positions on the Dawkins scale) is misplaced outside of axiomatic systems such as mathematics.
Etc.
Moose
REMEMBER - NOT A DISCUSSION TOPIC

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Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 11 of 20 (634954)
09-25-2011 4:10 AM


Well thought out and articulated comment
Author: RAZD
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread: Studying the supernatural
Message #: 50
A small sample:
Zen Deist writes:
Personally, I do not see it being possible to test any real supernatural aspects that may be in the {exist} set, because in order to properly validate (ie tested, calibrated and known(1)) to produce proper results) such a test you would need bonafide positive and negative results, which would make the whole exercise unnecessary.
This means you can only logically test for the effects of supernatural presence\essence on natural systems that can be tested. Problems here are (a) the strong possibility of false negative results, and (b) results that are confused with and ascribed to natural causes.
Thus we have to work from inference from indirect evidence, rather than direct observation and deduction, and thus we need to practice extreme care not to make premature conclusions, pro or con.
Nice post Zen Deist.

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Message 12 of 20 (634990)
09-25-2011 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Chuck77
09-25-2011 4:10 AM


Re: Well thought out and articulated comment
Thanks Chuck77,
Nice to know that some people read it ... it is long, but the only way I could see making it shorter would be to delete the parts that are responses to the previous post, and turn it into a monologue.
Enjoy.

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Message 13 of 20 (635066)
09-26-2011 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Minnemooseus
09-22-2011 1:42 AM


Re: Straggler, at "Scientific Knowledge"
I've just noticed this.
Thanks.

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Message 14 of 20 (635570)
09-29-2011 8:05 PM


GDR
I would like to nominate GDR as poster of the month.
Polite, concise, thoughtful, determined - GDR is consistently all of these things.
Ok - sure - I frequently disagree with his opinions.
But that is irrelevant to the quality of his(?) posts.
GDR...nice work. *thumbs up*

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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Message 15 of 20 (635571)
09-29-2011 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Panda
09-29-2011 8:05 PM


Re: GDR
Ditto.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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