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Dr Adequate
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Message 1 of 57 (628650)
08-11-2011 7:55 PM


So, to review:
I cannot (without a trivial subterfuge) tell Chuck77 that his question about thermodynamics is not s-t-u-p-i-d, because, well, heaven forend that I should say such a thing.
I cannot (without the same subterfuge) say that Holocaust deniers say that Holocaust survivors are l-i-a-r-s, because this is a fact undisputed by neither party to the conversation, and so is taboo.
It took rather more ingenuity for me to name the lawgiver of the Spartans, because the first two letters of his name are an L followed by a Y.
I can, on the other hand, call someone a disingenuous moron, because the forum software has no objection to that sort of thing.

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jar
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Message 2 of 57 (628651)
08-11-2011 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
08-11-2011 7:55 PM


I think you can thank me for this change.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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hooah212002
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Message 3 of 57 (628652)
08-11-2011 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
08-11-2011 7:55 PM


We can still say fuck, though, right?
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 4 of 57 (628655)
08-11-2011 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
08-11-2011 7:55 PM


It keeps a sense of decorum on the forum and helps to ameliorate the more base ad hominems.
"You really are an intellectually and logically deficeint little fuck, aren't you?"
"What a bald-faced assertion of negative truth value, shit ass!"
... is considerably more upscale than the usual use of the banned words in these circumstances.

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jar
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Message 5 of 57 (628656)
08-11-2011 10:02 PM


Christian Cult of Utter Sciolism

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

  
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Message 6 of 57 (628657)
08-11-2011 10:14 PM


Censored Words
This is the forum-wide censored word list:
That's right, it's empty.
This is the censored word list for Dr Adequate:
stupid\w* lie ly\w* liar\w*
And this is the censored word list for Jar:
ignoran\w* dumb stupid\w* idio\w*
The "\w*" portion is regular expression speak for "all the alphanumeric characters that follow".
The censoring is rather easy to evade, but I wouldn't recommend it because I don't have any backup strategies beyond suspension.
I know some members greatly dislike the portion of the Forum Guidelines that require civility and courtesy, but that's the way it is. Besides, calling someone a liar (or whatever name) is easy, demonstrating it for all to see is the real challenge. No one said EvC Forum is easy. This place is an even bigger challenge for creationists who usually come to their religiously-based ideas through faith and then when they arrive here discover, rather bewilderingly to many, that the evidence for those beliefs is rather hard to come by.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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jar
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Message 7 of 57 (628658)
08-11-2011 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Admin
08-11-2011 10:14 PM


Re: Censored Words
What is uncivil about Christian Cult of ***?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 8 of 57 (628659)
08-11-2011 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Admin
08-11-2011 10:14 PM


Re: Censored Words
Seriously, Percy, I certainly try to be civil.
When have I ever called someone an asshole, or said they should be shot, or called someone an *** or said they were *** or called someone a moron or ...
Who is uncivil here?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Dr Adequate
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Message 9 of 57 (628660)
08-11-2011 10:57 PM
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08-11-2011 10:14 PM


Re: Censored Words
Besides, calling someone a *** (or whatever name) is easy ...
Not any more it isn't. Nor is saying that *** gave the Spartans their laws, or that the *** of REM are obscure, or that Apollo is said to have invented the ***, or that the ability to take on the form of a wolf is known as *** ...
But I can still call someone a mendacious crudbucket.
If you persist with this substitute for moderation, then problems *** ahead.
... demonstrating it for all to see is the real challenge.
Actually, I usually find that quite easy.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Jack
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Message 10 of 57 (628670)
08-12-2011 5:53 AM
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08-11-2011 10:14 PM


Re: Censored Words
I love that you implemented Censored Words on a per-user basis.

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Message 11 of 57 (628672)
08-12-2011 6:06 AM


Censorship can be funny...

  
Percy
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Message 12 of 57 (628677)
08-12-2011 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Dr Adequate
08-11-2011 10:57 PM


Re: Censored Words
Dr Adequate writes:
... demonstrating it for all to see is the real challenge.
Actually, I usually find that quite easy.
You're too modest. You have a true gift. Start a ranting style blog a la Pharyngula, it'll be very popular.
I know you and Jar and Nuggin and others disagree, but once people get mad constructive discussion disappears, so the moderation policy here at EvC Forum is to discourage participation styles that tend to raise hackles.
--Percy

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Phat
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Message 13 of 57 (628679)
08-12-2011 7:21 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
08-11-2011 10:21 PM


Re: Censored Words
jar writes:
What is uncivil about Christian Cult of ***?
Because its uncivil to call someone ignorant in public unless you know them, like you do me. You can call me or maybe Buz ignorant, although its not a very good advertisement for a forum that invites Biblical Creationists to debate. Its like calling a girl ugly when you are trying to organize a Homecoming dance! The whole idea is to make them feel welcome...not to publicly humiliate them.
IMHO, anyway.

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Message 14 of 57 (628685)
08-12-2011 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Phat
08-12-2011 7:21 AM


Re: Censored Words
Phat writes:
Because its uncivil to call someone ignorant in public unless you know them, like you do me. You can call me or maybe Buz ignorant, although its not a very good advertisement for a forum that invites Biblical Creationists to debate. Its like calling a girl ugly when you are trying to organize a Homecoming dance! The whole idea is to make them feel welcome...not to publicly humiliate them.
IMHO, anyway.
Far worse than ignorant is liar, unless one can, in the message, absolutely cite documentation that a deliberate lie has been posted. Liar is the most mean-spirited and judgmental attack towards a member that anyone can post. Two or three members resort to this attack with impunity.
Most of the meanspirited ****ing asterisks and lie charges are directed at minority creationist members by the few who apply them .
With all due respect, AdminSlev has had zero influence so as to afford some balance in moderation. Admin Purple and Adminnemooseous, however have, imo, been the most help in that regard.
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The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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jar
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Message 15 of 57 (628686)
08-12-2011 9:36 AM
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08-12-2011 7:21 AM


Re: Censored Words
But I have not called either of you ***.
AbE:
Notice that you post shows that you do not know the difference between an individual, the corporate and content.
What is the lack of knowledge called?
Edited by jar, : AbE:

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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