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Author Topic:   Why Creationists' Willful Ignorance?
Panda
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Message 51 of 182 (628963)
08-14-2011 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by marc9000
08-14-2011 6:53 PM


marc9000 writes:
That’s what education is — to learn things that may be false?
Do you really think that the answer should be 'no'?
Ah yes - you are a devout believer.
There can be no doubt in what you learn else you have nothing.
Meanwhile, back at the lab:
"Eureka! I have successfully over-turned an established scientific theory !!"
*accepts Nobel Peace Prize*

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Message 57 of 182 (628995)
08-15-2011 6:09 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 5:43 AM


IamJoseph writes:
Correct. And facts are that which is manifest, observable, repeatable. Read, not subject to eons of years: the difference between Genesis and Darwin's evolution premises. Only one of the latter can be classified as FACT, not subject to unprovable time spans. Its not a fact to say your proof is on another galaxy under a red rock?
Please post in your native language and then we can use GoogleTranslate to get a better translation.

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Message 62 of 182 (629008)
08-15-2011 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 6:16 AM


IamJoseph writes:
I was just testing your comprehension levels, actually.
It is your responsibility to communicate successfully.
You are unable to do that using English.
Please post in your native language.

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Message 64 of 182 (629011)
08-15-2011 6:58 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Pressie
08-15-2011 6:42 AM


Pressie writes:
IamJoeseph writes:
Mobiles do not reproduce because they are not programmed to do so with a directive program.
Listen to yourself. A programme on a mobile certainly won’t let the mobiles to reproduce. Companies producing mobiles would love to hear how they can ‘programme’ a mobile to reproduce.
To claim that our mobile phones could reproduce is beyond crazy.
But IamJoseph will refuse to admit that he writes utter nonsense.
I expect him to change the subject rather than confront how messed up his posts are.

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Message 65 of 182 (629013)
08-15-2011 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 6:55 AM


IamJoseph writes:
If I lower the bar how will you ever improve?
You aren't raising the bar.
You don't even have a bar.
Please post in your native language.
It will benefit us all.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Message 68 of 182 (629028)
08-15-2011 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Pressie
08-15-2011 7:19 AM


Pressie writes:
Is it worth even to try and have a rational conversation with people like him or her?
He is the kind of debater that will always change the subject rather than support their nonsense claims.
So I expect the answer is 'no'.
Remember: He thinks that his English is perfectly understandable and that he doesn't post word salad.
Do you really want to debate with someone that deluded?

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Message 69 of 182 (629034)
08-15-2011 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 7:07 AM


IamJoseph writes:
Otherwise I would gladly say it in a native language of your own, seeing you have issues with english.
Here is what other people think of your English:
"Could you care to explain what you meant; preferably without the word salad?"
"What the fucking hell are you talking about?"
"Since we don't need any more nonsense posing as English than we already have..."
"I'll take that as a no to my request to make a coherent argument."
"I had no idea what topic he was or wasn't on. How does one tell? I was just seeing if I could speak Josephish."
"Actually, grammar, as well as terminology, is a big part of the problem in understanding your posts. Your grammar and terminology are often incorrect. Understanding your intended meaning by reading what you've written is often very difficult."
"Talking to you is like having a conversation with a random word generator."
I suggest you look towards yourself.

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Message 77 of 182 (629113)
08-15-2011 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 8:36 PM


IamJoseph writes:
The shock surprise in asking what is meant by seed today is disgraceful - as if its open to multi-choices.
Although all of your reply was nonsense, I thought I would focus on this particular nonsense:
Here are some of the many definitions of seed:

1) A propagative part of a plant, as a tuber or spore.
2) A small amount of material used to start a chemical reaction.
3) A source or beginning.
4) Offspring; progeny.
5) Sperm; semen.
6) A sportsman who has been seeded for a tournament, often at a given rank.
7) A capsule used interstitially in the treatment of cancer.
8) To remove the seeds from fruit.
9) A tiny flaw in glassware.
The shock surprise in thinking that seed only has a single meaning is disgraceful.
Clearly it is open to 'multi-choices'.
Only someone with a flimsy grasp of English would think that 'seed' only had one meaning.

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Message 92 of 182 (629154)
08-16-2011 6:16 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by IamJoseph
08-15-2011 10:39 PM


IamJoseph writes:
the word seed is placed in such a context there is no alternative meaning in the verse, 'A SEED SHALL FOLLOW ITS OWN KIND';
I looked up this verse that you like to shout.
It doesn't seem to exist.
There are several results in google - but they are all links to you shouting about seeds.
Whatever Bible you think you are quoting from: it appears to only be in your head.
Which also explains why it makes so little sense.

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Message 93 of 182 (629155)
08-16-2011 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 5:41 AM


Re: more of the same from IamJoseph
IamJoseph writes:
Butterflytyrant writes:
take these two animals - Mosquito, and penguin.
Where do they fit into your 'kinds'?
Absolutely...
Try again. This time, try to answer the question.
Where do mosquitoes fit into your 'kinds'?
Are they land kind; are they water kind or are the airborne kind?
Edited by Panda, : Simplified

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Message 107 of 182 (629178)
08-16-2011 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 8:07 AM


Re: more of the same from IamJoseph
IamJoseph writes:
'Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let fowl fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.'
That says a transit sea life form can adapt to a bird - the word 'and' indicates that.
Do you need more time to answer the question?
Where do mosquitoes fit into your 'kinds'?
Are they land kind; are they water kind or are the airborne kind?
{abe}
I think I will just focus on this very simple question.
I will continue to ask it until you answer it.
To give you a clue: the answer is either 'Land', 'Water' or 'Airborne'.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

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Message 108 of 182 (629179)
08-16-2011 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 8:12 AM


Re: more of the same from IamJoseph
IamJoseph writes:
Do you require more time to admit the first listing of life form groupings is Genesis?
Do you need more time to show where you plucked the sentence: "A SEED SHALL FOLLOW ITS OWN KIND" from?
Are you quoting the bible?

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Message 129 of 182 (629217)
08-16-2011 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 9:25 AM


Re: more of the same from IamJoseph
IamJoseph writes:
How about 'winged creatures.'
Why are you asking me what kind it is?
Do you not know?
But since 'winged creatures' is not a 'kind' listed in the bible - I would expect that you are wrong.
Where do mosquitoes fit into your 'kinds'?
Are they land kind; are they water kind or are the airborne kind?

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Message 149 of 182 (629278)
08-16-2011 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:35 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
IamJoseph writes:
Homeosaps...
'Homeosaps' is not a real word.
What language do you think you are speaking?

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Message 152 of 182 (629281)
08-16-2011 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by IamJoseph
08-16-2011 6:35 PM


Re: "Popular" arguments
IamJoseph writes:
What's the oldest human NAME on record?
I suggest "Narmer", an Egyptian Pharaoh of both Upper and Lower Egypt who lived in the 32nd century BC.
What do you think is the oldest name on record?
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