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Trae
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Message 151 of 284 (627311)
08-02-2011 2:33 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Nuggin
07-31-2011 11:30 PM


Re: You don't get it.
Here we've spent an entire weekend with a bunch of you guys droning on ENDLESSLY about your various special labels and special treatment.
Are you pushing for bi-sexual marriage rights? No. Why? Because it's a NON-ISSUE.
Or you just spent a weekend in LA where self-obsession is a past-time. I can’t remember a single case where any bi-sexual has ever felt the need to explain anything to me unasked, apart from a simple statement such as, I’m bi.
People who are Bi are pushing for bi-sexual marriage rights. You might as well have tried to make a point about Hispanics and other minorities getting rights through the black civil rights movement.
If you’re going to apply labels they should be useful. Bisexual tells something about someone’s orientation. Homosexual who sleeps with woman does not convey the same information and is unwieldy. Arguable it doesn’t even describe a bisexual.

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Trae
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Message 153 of 284 (627313)
08-02-2011 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by Nuggin
08-01-2011 9:25 AM


Re: You don't get it.
If you find yourself attracted to the same sex, you are gay. If you are also attracted to other things, you are STILL GAY.
Therefore, If you find yourself attracted to the opposite sex, you are straight. If you're also attracted to other things, you're STILL STRAIGHT. Really? So any gay person who's ever slept with someone of the opposite sex (even if it was rape) is straight?

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Trae
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From: Fremont, CA, USA
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Message 154 of 284 (627314)
08-02-2011 2:57 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by Nuggin
08-01-2011 8:40 PM


Re: You don't get it.
Further, the fact that there are gays saying "Yeah, I used to claim to be bi, but it was bullshit" is sorta damning for the rest of the bi's who are claiming to be special and definitely not gay. (except when they call themselves gay or when they want to make a political point - but only they get to say it).
People claim all sort of things. You might as well as say something like, There are no agnostics since many atheists tried to pass as agnostic. Just because some gay people tried to ‘pass’ doesn’t mean there are no bisexuals.

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Trae
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Message 155 of 284 (627316)
08-02-2011 3:02 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 2:37 AM


Re: You don't get it.
The issue is gay marriage. Not gay and bi marriage.
The issue is both unless you’re claiming there’s some movement to say bisexuals will be more limit. You cannot be so naive to believe that no bisexuals are supporting gay marriage for their own personal reasons. As I have said, it would be like claiming that no Hispanics supported the Black Civil Rights movement hoping they’d be covered.

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Trae
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From: Fremont, CA, USA
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Message 238 of 284 (627560)
08-02-2011 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 1:12 PM


Re: Go back to the start
As I pointed out earlier, there is no male version of "LUG". It's a phenomena that just doesn't happen.
Those, 'one time at camp' stories seem to be similar or perhaps the emo boy fetish for kissing?

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Trae
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Posts: 442
From: Fremont, CA, USA
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Message 241 of 284 (627565)
08-02-2011 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Nuggin
08-02-2011 5:38 PM


Re: Go back to the start
Come on. Let's assume for a second that you have a 12 year old son.
You discover that there is a minister in your neighborhood who runs a special class for young boys focusing on indepth discussion about their gay desires.
Your conclusion is: "Wow, that guy must be making tons of money"?
Given we know that these groups raise money from religious donors and given we know that churches themselves often help fund these organizations what is so unreasonable. When is the last time you heard a mega church raise millions of dollars to combat drug addiction?
They are covered by "gay rights" legislation. That makes them gay.
I’m covered by medical marijuana legislation. Does that make me a pot smoker? I’m covered by immigration laws, does that make me an immigrant? More on point, there are straight people who are covered by ‘gay rights’ legislation. How does that make them gay?
Saying that they aren't "gay" because sometimes they want to be "gay" and sometimes they don't is just silly.
As gay is a preference and not simply an act, how can you not prefer men over woman and still be gay?

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