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bluegenes
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Message 75 of 468 (624852)
07-20-2011 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by GDR
07-20-2011 10:46 AM


Re: The Ultimate Question
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Edited by bluegenes, : Wiped, PaulK's post covers the point already

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Message 86 of 468 (624974)
07-21-2011 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Mazzy
07-20-2011 4:45 PM


Re: Subjective Evidence of Gods
Mazzie writes:
Earth is the lucky planet.
Every planet in the universe is in exactly the right circumstances to be itself. This is inevitable.
The coastline of Australia is exactly right to fit the continent. This is inevitable.

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bluegenes
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Message 92 of 468 (625185)
07-21-2011 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Mazzy
07-21-2011 4:47 PM


Re: Subjective Evidence of Gods
Mazzy writes:
bluegenes writes:
Every planet in the universe is in exactly the right circumstances to be itself. This is inevitable.
The coastline of Australia is exactly right to fit the continent. This is inevitable.
What a ridiculous reply!
If you had understood my reply, you wouldn't say that. Now think. All planets have exactly the correct circumstances and history to be what they are, and for everything that is part of them. Saturn is just right for its gases, rings and many moons, but that is no reason for those features to be described as "lucky", or to say that Saturn was intelligently designed for the benefit of those features.
The fact that the coastline of Australia fits the continent exactly does not indicate intelligent design, does it? The fact that Australia is just right for the plants and animals that live there does not mean it was intelligently designed for them. They will inevitably match their environment, because if they didn't, they'd perish, as the dinosaurs did when the circumstances on earth were no longer suited to them.
Mazzy writes:
Every planet in the universe is in the right circumstance to be itself and they are lifeless, so far, and all had equal opportunity to evolve life eg Mars, given that these researchers have spent huge resources in demonstrating how life can survive in lava, in sunless environments, in ice, etc.
Life is not what planets are for, and they certainly did not all have equal opportunity to evolve life. Rings, like Saturns are not what planets are for. Planets just are what they are, and whatever features the have will suit them exactly.
Mazzy writes:
All this research is aimed at demomnstrating how the universe is seeded with the requirements of life and not so much as a confirmed bacteria to wave back at us. These are the facts. The rest is speculation.
Once again, life isn't the purpose of the universe. It just happens to be a feature of this planet, and could be a feature of others, although it may not be common. What point are you trying to make? Do you think that Saturn was intelligently designed for the sake of its rings, merely because it's just right for them?

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Message 219 of 468 (630047)
08-22-2011 5:20 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by Chuck77
08-22-2011 4:58 AM


Multiple subjective gods.
Chuck77 writes:
Ok GDR, I have one question for you.....
I suspect that you'll have more than one. The problem with this "subjective evidence" business is that different people end up with different gods.

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