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Coyote
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Message 166 of 247 (623265)
07-08-2011 11:38 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by Dr Adequate
07-08-2011 11:32 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
I believe in working for my living and paying my own way.
It's nice to know that you have some socialist principles.
Sorry, no.
Socialist principles involve taking what I have earned--at the point of a gun--and giving it it those who have not earned it. That gets old real quick. It removes the inventive for me to work.
Does the phrase "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs)" mean anything to you?

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Taz
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Message 167 of 247 (623266)
07-09-2011 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by Coyote
07-08-2011 11:38 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Coyote, I think we can both agree that too much of anything always results in something bad happening.
We've saeen the result of authoritarian governments imposing socialism/communism on the populace. We've seen the incompetence that results from communism.
At the same time, we've also seen the results of unregulated capitalism. I would argue that unregulated capitalism has resulted just as much human rights violation as communism has.
The question then becomes at which point between the two extremes do we find a happy medium. Well, that's up for debate, I guess. I'm more left-leaning compared to where you're at. At the same time, I don't think it's fair for you to accuse us that we want to take what you've earned and distribute it to people who have not earned it.
Look, I cringe every time I look at the income taxes that I pay, too. I make a living just like you do. But I also believe that we need to have safety nets to catch those who have fallen from grace. Why? Because I might be the next guy that falls.
There was an npr program that I Was listening to. It was one of those stories in the evening. Anyway, it was a story of this guy who was making 150k a year in some kind of sales business. That was a few years ago. Nowadays, he lives in a homeless shelter due to his risky investments. Lost his business, earnings, home, car, as well as his family. In just a course of 2 years, a relatively affluent businessman becomes a homeless wreck.
This is why I advocate for us to find a happy medium. Somewhere in between unregulated capitalism and total socialism. I'm convinced we can make this land a much better place to live in for everybody.

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subbie
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Message 168 of 247 (623281)
07-09-2011 3:45 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Coyote
07-08-2011 8:55 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Coyote writes:
But if you studied some anthropology you just might learn something about how the real world actually is.
Objection! Assuming facts not in evidence.
Has anyone ever actually seen Buz learn anything about the real world?
Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?
[NB: I'm rather significantly intoxicated right now, so if I'm wrong and this isn't at least slightly amusing, please let me know. Thx]

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Buzsaw
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Message 169 of 247 (623299)
07-09-2011 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by Coyote
07-08-2011 10:52 PM


Re: Glenophobes, You Are!
If ill ask you who those progressives are, and what they want, are you going to go all Glenn Beck on me?
I don't watch Glenn Beck.
No wonder you and so many here don't like him. You're a bunch of loud mouthed ignoramuses here who don't know about what he could've taught you and why you don't like him.
You see, im actually a socialist...
Sorry to hear that.
I believe in working for my living and paying my own way.
See? You and Glen would've gotten along fine. This was high on his agenda. Ignorant Glenophobes, you sheeple are on who he really is.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 170 of 247 (623300)
07-09-2011 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Coyote
07-08-2011 8:55 PM


Re: The Real World.
Coyote writes:
No, my guess is that you take it from ancient tribal myth.
But if you studied some anthropology you just might learn something about how the real world actually is.
No. It's been mainstream America since the beginning until the 1960s when they emerged from their closets. Prove otherwise.
On the other hand a little logic and common sense says a whole lot about the real world than a University course on anthropology that programs logic and common sense out of the young impressive minds full of mush in the halls of higher ejaculation, i.e. homosexuality.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 171 of 247 (623301)
07-09-2011 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by hooah212002
07-08-2011 10:31 PM


Re: LoL On Pole Here
hooah writes:
We should take a poll as to which group is more likely to be intloerant/bigoted: religious types or non-religious types. I've noticed lately that more often that not it is the religious types have a "you're different from me then fuck you" type attitude.
LoL on an objective poll from the mostly radical un-American types here at EvC who haven't a clue about what has made America uniquely free, blessed and great.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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jar
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Message 172 of 247 (623302)
07-09-2011 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Buzsaw
07-09-2011 8:43 AM


What made America free and great?
What made America free was having two oceans as borders and weaker nations north and south.
What made America great was rampant exploitation of the people that were here before the Europeans and raping the land and resources.
Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Buzsaw
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Message 173 of 247 (623303)
07-09-2011 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 167 by Taz
07-09-2011 12:31 AM


Re: Socialist Atrocities
Taz writes:
At the same time, we've also seen the results of unregulated capitalism. I would argue that unregulated capitalism has resulted just as much human rights violation as communism has.
Mmm, no, Taz. For the most part, especially in America's best years, capitalism has been unregulated. On the other hand, last century over a hundred million citizens of mostly socialist governments were murdered by their own governments. Go figure.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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hooah212002
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Message 174 of 247 (623314)
07-09-2011 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Buzsaw
07-09-2011 8:43 AM


Re: LoL On Pole Here
LoL on an objective poll from the mostly radical un-American types here at EvC
No, Buz, I wouldn't have you, or anyone like you, perform the study.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Nuggin
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Message 175 of 247 (623325)
07-09-2011 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Buzsaw
07-08-2011 8:33 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Why? Because gay is not natural.
Then where did they come from?

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Nuggin
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From: Los Angeles, CA USA
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Message 176 of 247 (623326)
07-09-2011 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Coyote
07-08-2011 10:33 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Nobody beats the "progressives" for intolerance.
You're right, they are intolerant of ... intolerance.
Why can't they be more accepting and let everyone be intolerant towards minorities?

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Nuggin
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From: Los Angeles, CA USA
Joined: 08-09-2005


Message 177 of 247 (623327)
07-09-2011 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Coyote
07-08-2011 11:38 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Socialist principles involve taking what I have earned
Coy, I'm going to arbitrarily assign you an income of $100,000. It's that's more or less than what you make, I apologize. If it's exactly what you make, then I doubt apologize and I brag about my awesome ability.
Paris Hilton makes $6,500,000 a year.
Does Paris Hilton work 65x harder than you? Is she 65x smarter than you? Producing 65x as much material goods as you?
There are people who make a ridiculous amount of money, often because they were related to someone who made a bunch of money and left it to them.
The idea that these people should pay LESS in taxes than a factor worker who gets up every morning and trudges to work for a fraction of a fraction of what they make is ridiculous.

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Nuggin
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Message 178 of 247 (623328)
07-09-2011 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Buzsaw
07-09-2011 8:25 AM


Glenn Beck
You're a bunch of loud mouthed ignoramuses here who don't know about what he could've taught you and why you don't like him.
Here's what Glenn Beck "taught" people:
Buy gold from my sponsor at a ridiculous mark up and you can't lose.
Except they ALL lost.
And the reason we don't like him is because he may have raped and murdered a girl. He has yet to deny it.

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Buzsaw
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Message 179 of 247 (623341)
07-09-2011 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Nuggin
07-09-2011 12:30 PM


Re: Beck Right On Gold
Nuggin writes:
Here's what Glenn Beck "taught" people:
Buy gold from my sponsor at a ridiculous mark up and you can't lose.
Except they ALL lost.
And the reason we don't like him is because he may have raped and murdered a girl. He has yet to deny it.
No. One of Beck's sponsors was a gold company. The fact is that anyone who has bought gold over the last decade has made money big time and the end is not in sight.
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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 180 of 247 (623342)
07-09-2011 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by Nuggin
07-09-2011 12:28 PM


Re: Why The Fuss?
Nuggin writes:
The idea that these people should pay LESS in taxes than a factor worker who gets up every morning and trudges to work for a fraction of a fraction of what they make is ridiculous.
Who would hire the factory worker if it weren't for the rich who invest in factories which hire people?
The rich are already paying about 90% of America's taxes with the poor paying zero.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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