Chance as a sole-product of the Universe

Reminds me of ICANT and the "existence of existence". What are the chances that chance exists?It's the kind of philosophical mumbo-jumbo that mike the wiz loves and Phat phalls phor.

What are the chances of rolling a six? What's the probability of rolling a six?What's the difference?

We don't throw out phrases like that. If the probability is unknown, how can you dismiss it as "impossible"?Edited by ringo, : Corrected quote.

God is an anachronism. He has been ever since we started looking for the real answers to our questions. It has nothing to do with chance. Even if God does exist, He isn't the answer to anything.

Lack of belief is not a belief.

So why do you believe in God when you don't see Him?The bizarre claim that God hides so that we have to have faith in Him goes contrary to the old saying.

The story of Thomas does not support your point. Jesus showed Thomas the evidence. If those who believe without evidence are also blessed, that is not a case of "seeing is believing". You'll have to look for another "old saying" to support blind belief. Why is that a silly argument? What reason do you have to think that Jesus' words were written down with perfect accuracy?

He did. Jesus showed Thomas. What Jesus said flat out - not "suggested" - was that the way to please God is to feed the hungry, etc. Apparently that is what He meant by having faith. Word salad has a lot of fiber in it; it goes right through you.

Does the Pope wish there was no God but since there is he might as well get on His good side?You seem to have a very low opinion of faith - and of a god who would be fooled by people who don't want to believe in him.

I didn't read the whole thing. One comment that made me cringe was, "Life itself has climbed a ladder of chaos to reach new heights of order." Really? And he keeps on digging the hole: "Genes are not “supposed” to mutate. They are supposed to perfectly replicate themselves in a predictable manner." If he doesn't know the first thing about chemistry, he shouldn't write about it.So, instead of hoping that I'll see what you see, why don't you tell us how it contrasts with classic scripture.

So you've given up on throwing scripture out the window?

Whatever knowledge of scripture I have is based on many years of hearing it on an almost daily basis. Reading one article isn't likely to have much of an impact.The only thing I said in this thread about God being an anachronism was in Message 128:

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God is an anachronism. He has been ever since we started looking for the real answers to our questions. It has nothing to do with chance. Even if God does exist, He isn't the answer to anything.

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I stand by that.

There is wisdom that comes with life experience and has nothing to do with any belief system. I think you're making a fundamental error in trying to equate Satan with chaos and God with order. I don't think it was any external ideas that caused the decline and fall of Christianity. I think it collapsed from its own weight and structural weaknesses.

The review starts out, "This truly dreadful book...."Which side are we on?

It seems like our generation and our parents' generation were the only ones where large families were common. My grandfather had twelve children but several of his siblings died in childhood. His children had an average of four children each.