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Trae Member (Idle past 4328 days) Posts: 442 From: Fremont, CA, USA Joined: |
Dr Adequate writes: I don’t know that you meant that photo to be accurate, but even without knowing its providence, as a former digital imaging professional, I can say with a high degree of confidence it is a fake. I'm not so sure. Here's CNN's video of Bush kissing Abdullah. It can't be the same incident, Bush is wearing a different tie, but my point is why would anyone fake a photograph of something that has actually happened, and of which to judge from the clicking of cameras in the video there must be about a jillion actual photographs, not to mention the video itself? And here's video of yet another kiss. Faking a photograph of Bush kissing Abdullah would therefore be a complete waste of time. Who knows, maybe he normally keeps his eyes open and someone thought this would be more funny? I recall news stories of him kissing people as per their custom. I don’t dispute that he’s kissed people, I dispute the image presented here. I don’t have Photoshop on this computer, but at a glance, the shadow area on Bush’s right shoulder appears darker than the shadow areas on the other Muslim or background. The shadow area on Bush’s right shoulder doesn’t conform to reality. Even if one supposes some odd angle of light, why doesn’t that angle cast a harsh light or hard shadow on the other Muslim? There’s a blob on what is supposed to be the right shoulder of Bush’s jacket. This is consistent with a poor attempt create a shoulder out of an image which has an object in the foreground of the jacket. I suggest the object is possibly the collar of the jacket of the person he actually kissed. Bush’s right eye is in shadow how could one light Bush without him either casting a shadow on the other Muslim or the other Muslim casting more shadows on his own face? There’s a line running under Bush’s chin and over to his color which actually extends out from his neck. The most reasonable explanation is that it is a poor attempt at a masking one image of Bush into another. This indicates that the original background was darker. The other Muslim has a large nose, but it seems doubtful to me that Bush could put his nose and lips where located without Bush’s cheekbone being pretty much where the other guy’s right lens is. There’s a halo around Bush’s hair (most noticeable where his hair meets his jacket). This is more consistent with one image being feathered into another than it being a case of the hair being backlit. Image artifacts. If you blow the image up in your browser to 200%+ you should see much less artifact noise on the Bush area of the image. If you’re unfamiliar with artifact noise it is a type of pixilation, which in this image appears mostly where the white of the headdress edges against other colors. You can see it as a sort of patchiness in many parts of the Muslim. The loss of data in the patches tends to have the effect of corrupting the color of images. This is more pronounced when the colors are saturated and we see a bit of that here in this image. For instance in the shirt there is some added green hues, and in the face some coral. Presumably when merged the Bush portion of the image either had more original data or had not suffered as much data loss though compression. The Muslim shows signs of additional unsharp masking, where the Bush image appears not to have been. It is problematic that the Muslim seems more overall in focus while the image of Bush seems slightly out of focus. Both the Muslim’s near and far eyes seem more in focus then either Bush’s eyes.
****Edited to add****After writing that it occurred to me to see if I could find the source. The image used was used on this page:hermes-press.com - contact with domain owner | Epik.com If one scrolls down the section above Jihad you can find this other kiss which even at a glance one should see is a fake. Edited by Trae, : Added a couple of links.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The flaw in your otherwise ingenious hypothesis is that it implies that someone on the internet has wasted their time doing something entirely pointless.
I think we all know how unlikely that is.
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Granny Magda Member Posts: 2462 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Hi Trae,
I don’t know that you meant that photo to be accurate, but even without knowing its providence, as a former digital imaging professional, I can say with a high degree of confidence it is a fake. Does it matter? I chose that particular image, even though I was somewhat dubious of it, because it made my point and because I thought it was the funniest out of the many pictures of Bush getting his freak on with the Saudis. The image itself is not the point, nor is the kiss. The point is that Bush is cosy with the House of Saud, one of the most evil gatherings of despots on the planet. He was diplomatically close to them during his tenure as president. He was and is close to them due to his personal business relationships. All this despite that fact that Saudi Arabia is one of the top sponsors of Islamic terrorism and the centre of Wahabbi Islam, one of the most repugnantly extreme and intolerant forms of Islam. If you're concerned about the photo, fine, but this one makes my point just as well;
Should Bush be castigated for this? Well, perhaps. But the fact is that all US presidents have to cosy up to unpleasant foreign powers. It's part of the job. Buzsaw's hysteria over Obama is misplaced. Mutate and Survive On two occasions I have been asked, — "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage
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Trae Member (Idle past 4328 days) Posts: 442 From: Fremont, CA, USA Joined: |
Granny Magda writes:
Not so much to me, which is why I asked if you meant for it to be accurate.
Does it matter? I chose that particular image, even though I was somewhat dubious of it, because it made my point and because I thought it was the funniest out of the many pictures of Bush getting his freak on with the Saudis...
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4166 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
This is an audio only interview of harold camping after the rapture date.
Notice how he does not take any responsibility at all of people losing all their posessions for this event. He said "we are not in the business of giving financial advice..." Incredible...
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
The flaw in your otherwise ingenious hypothesis is that it implies that someone on the internet has wasted their time doing something entirely pointless. I think we all know how unlikely that is.
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3123 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
If you use condoms or contraceptives you won't be raptured.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Even though i am an atheist i would love to see the end of the world and the rapture to see how many of these idiots get left behind
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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
CS writes: I don't get it. Where is the joke.....?
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3123 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
Yes, unfortunately this guy is for real.
It makes me sad that some people are so freakin stupid. However, if anyone can provide a good incentive to become an atheist or agnostic it is this idiot. Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given. "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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Panda Member (Idle past 3734 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
DevilsAdvocate writes:
That is hilarious! Yes, unfortunately this guy is for real. It makes me sad that some people are so freakin stupid. However, if anyone can provide a good incentive to become an atheist or agnostic it is this idiot.
Shouldn't you have posted that in the Humour thread? quote:Too funny!!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
That guy claims to be the third eagle, the co-prophet of end times. Here is a video of him predicting Obama's downfall.
Edit. By the way, according to this guy, WW3 will occur in 2017. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
frako writes: Even though i am an atheist i would love to see the end of the world and the rapture to see how many of these idiots get left behind Biblically, you will not see the end of the world, but may, indeed, observe the rapture, Our foreign friend, Frako, receive Jesus, as saviour and lord of your life to be prepared or be providentially punished as apostate. Edited by Buzsaw, : add word, "foreign." BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
I think some of the Native Americans had things figured out pretty well:
Lo, the poor Indian! whose untutor'd mind Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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