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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Yeah, I am one of those wierdos who like to eat the raw fish plain!
Oh, and carpaccio is served at room temperature, and I'll bet you would like it if you thought of it as really rare steak. I agree, however, that since people had enough liesure time, we have been looking for ways to manipulate our food to make it delight the palate.
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DanskerMan Inactive Member |
""There are no evolutionists in Hell"
lpetrich: So Charles Darwin is in Heaven, getting to survey the evolution of life at first hand and wishing he could return to Earth to tell everybody what he has seen? "-------------------------------- Either you didn't get the point, or you are trying to be funny..I'll assume it's a joke. Unless Darwin accepted Christ on his deathbed, he is INDEED in Hell realizing that he was WRONG, thus he is now a hell-bound Creationist. Therefore, there are no evolutionists or atheists in hell. ------------------"You can no more alter God than a pebble can alter the rhythm of the Pacific."
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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Oh.
Satan is the Creator too?
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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Don't read much about Chaos Theory, do you?
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Silent H Member (Idle past 5841 days) Posts: 7405 From: satellite of love Joined: |
[QUOTE]by sonnikke++++++++++++++++++++++++
Either you didn't get the point, or you are trying to be funny..I'll assume it's a joke. Unless Darwin accepted Christ on his deathbed, he is INDEED in Hell realizing that he was WRONG, thus he is now a hell-bound Creationist. Therefore, there are no evolutionists or atheists in hell. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Actually I didn't get the point when I read it either. I guess the reason why is because your point (like your evidence for design) is stuck within your own circular logic. Many people can, and do, believe in evolution AND God (even the Xtian god, accepting Jesus as their savior)! Ever hear of theistic evolutionists? How about deists? All it takes is altering which statements of the bible you believe are parables, and which you believe are statements of fact. This is similar to when people realized that the Biblical statements regarding an earth-centered universe must be parable, as the evidence from their senses proved quite the opposite was true. You do believe the earth goes around the sun, right? Or do you believe there are no heliocentrists in hell either? Never mind answering this, just answer the real questions regarding your evidence for design. holmes
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Sure, makes sense. ------------------
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Peter Member (Idle past 1501 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
I remember doing a taste test in biology class ...
I couldn't taste it at all ... which from other people's reactions was a good thing. Taste in general, though, is psychological surely? One can accustom oneself to unusuals tastes ... I remembershuddering down a mouthful of my dad's beer as a child, but drink it now and savour the taste ... not entirely a changing of growing up thing there, and there are several food items that I hated a few years ago, but quite like now.
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nator Member (Idle past 2192 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Yes, taste is physiological, but there is a lot of cultural learning which greatly influences our tastes.
It is pretty much agreed upon that hair, fur and paper are not considered food by humans, universally, but after that it is a question of social norms and exposure, and a little bit of personal taste. The occurance of true food allergies and true lactose intolerance and true gluten sensitivity in the US population are all very small, despite the fact that they are the trendy ailments of the day. I think that they are often used to justify fear of food or pickiness. IT is also true that children who are breast fed tend to be more adventureous eaters, because they were being exposed to a much greater range of taste because the mother's diet would affect the taste of her milk. It is repeated exposure to different foods that will allow a person of any age to develop a taste for it. I reccomend a great book on the subject called "The Man Who Ate Everything" by Jeffery Steingarten
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Meaning what? That our brains process chemical signals associated with the stuff we eat? And that our brains further associate those chemical signals with stuff we have eaten in the past that did or did not make us sick, throwing in the cultural components to make those associations streatch back many generations? ------------------
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Peter Member (Idle past 1501 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
quote: Our taste-buds and olifactory sensors send signals back to thebrain for processing. The brain then makes associations based upon past exposure,cultural acceptance etc. and sends a message representing a degree of acceptance. Have you ever seen programs (they used to do them in the UK)where they take unusual food out on to the street, and say 'Here try this.' People chow down, making 'that's not bad' noises then the presenter says 'hey, that's a sheep's eyeball' or 'bull's testicle' and the people go 'Yuk!!!' and spit out the stuff with a look of revultion. It's a rare person who just goes on munching and saying 'Hmmm ... tastes good anyhow.' Taste is largely psychological.
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Andya Primanda Inactive Member |
What's wrong with eating nonmeat animal parts? Indonesians seem to do it all the time: goat testicles, cow brains, nose cartilage, knee cartilage, stomach, chicken intestines (deep-fried), lungs, tails,... but we're nothing compared with the insect-eating Thais or dog-eating Koreans or half-incubated-egg-gulping Filipinos.
Asia's one adventurous place for the gastronomically adventurous
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Peter Member (Idle past 1501 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
That's what I was getting at really .... it's not a function
of the taste or texture etc. that ultimately determines whether or not one likes what one is tasting ... it's psychological and a large part of that is social conditioning and cultural influence. Added as an afetrthought:: A traditional English dish is tripe and onions .... withtripe being cow's intestines, and the scottish love their sheep stomaches stuffed with spicy stuff (hagis) [This message has been edited by Peter, 02-13-2003]
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John Inactive Member |
quote: ah.... Would you really call that taste though? Seems like that while the mystery-dish is still a mystery the taste buds are doing their jobs properly, and when the host tells them that they are eating sea slug a different component of the brain takes over. It is a fine line, as these things are all inter-related. Lets say, many millions of years ago and long before we resembled humans, our taste mechanisms worked essentially on trial and error. Eventually a slight cultural element came into play. Bears, for example, to a certain extent teach their cubs what to eat, where to find food, etc. This cultural component became stronger in primates. In our case, it can overwhelm the taste-buds-- so to speak. The cultural component has become strong enough to backfire. I suppose I am thinking of taste in a more restricted way than are you. I mean, Americans eat cow on a daily basis but will react with horror if they are asked to eat horse. The two meats must produce very similar taste bud responses. ------------------
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Peter Member (Idle past 1501 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: |
I think the way I view it is that the taste-buds simply report
'flavour characteristics' (taste buds can only do salt, sweet, and sour ... or somesuch ... anyhow, a lot of what we call taste includes smell) ... it's the brain that interprets and says yes or no, surely.
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Gzus Inactive Member |
What's wrong with believing that the universe was created by Satan?
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