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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Interesting. John 10-10 is banned and you are answering for him.
His creating things eliminates other possiblities. 100%. Logically false. You could have 10 deities creating 10 different things, and this would not suddenly require 9 deities and their creations to dissappear in a puff of green smoke and mirrors.
You have your beliefs, John 10:10 has his. And one of us uses logic with no conflicts with all the evidence around us, while the other denies the reality in front of him. Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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ReverendDG Member (Idle past 4111 days) Posts: 1119 From: Topeka,kansas Joined: |
Only if there were no God, of the type, say, the US has claimed to believe in. His creating things eliminates other possiblities. 100%. You have your beliefs, John 10:10 has his.
and thus, ID is not science and never will be if we can not find structure to ID. The second we start talking about belief is the moment it loses all credibility
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:I had said to someone that he had his beliefs, and this John had his, mine never entered the picture. Try to focus. quote: No, not if we ware talking the God of the bible, we can say that. In this case that happens to be the majority God in question as well. Fancy that.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: Gosh, you're gonna spoil their fun.
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simple  Inactive Member |
Maybe we can add ID to the long list of things that aren't science. Why, does it claim to be science?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:I am? I thought I was speaking for myself. Oh well, maybe I should change my forum name to 'defender of the weak', or some such. quote:Maybe in your head in the land of make believe! Not in the real world, and in the land of the majority God in question. That is beyond your power to question. Far beyond. quote:Thank you for that. It takes a big man to admit that. God bless you. Edited by whisper, : No reason given.
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Jon Inactive Member |
I erred, I will admit. I should not have included you in my post. It is only John and one other member that you claimed were displaying their beliefs and you did not say you were doing the same.
quote: If you are talking the God of the Bible, then I would suppose you are right. Especially if you are talking about the method of creation as mentioned in the Bible, because the Bible claims that it is the only way things happened, and so in believing the Bible, you would have to believe that there was no other way. Then again, this is for a different forum. And another thing, on your other point about the U.S. and what they have claimed to believe in. You make this statement as if all people in the U.S. believe in the same thing, and in the same God... when we most certainly do not! To say "of the type, say, the US has claimed to believe in" doesn't narrow down anything at all. However, this is also something for another forum. Also, instead of trying to make your posts wordy and make yourself sound smart, you would be better understood if you were simply concise and to-the-point with what you're saying. And please don't take personal offense to this. Trék
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Thank you. quote:Thanks again. quote:Look up 'majority', and see how it difers from 'all people'. quote:OK, I'll try to use baby english.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Maybe in your head in the land of make believe! Ad hominem - attacking the person and not the message - logical fallacy.
... and in the land of the majority God in question. Argumentum ad populum - appeal to popularity - logical fallacy.
That is beyond your power to question. Far beyond. (implied) Appeal to Consequences - logical fallacy. And of course ignoring the fact that I did question it. Simply and directly ... with no consequences implied or otherwise ... So in one paragraph you have 3 logical fallacies and one demonstrated false statement.
maybe I should change my forum name to 'defender of the weak', or some such. Better try "some such" as "Defender of the Weak" doesn't fit.
Thank you for that. It takes a big man to admit that. God bless you. Predictable tripe. I've demonstrated both your and John 10-10's logical failings, feel free to demonstrate mine. Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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Jon Inactive Member |
Look up 'majority', and see how it difers from 'all people'. Why bother? You never said anything about "majority."
quote: You see? You did say "majority" in another post, but I don't know what to do about that because it seems somewhat contradictory.
OK, I'll try to use baby english. You won't sound stupid because you are concise. All that will happen is that people will be able to understand your messages the first time they read them. The main problem with your wordiness, however, is that you seem to flat out misuse some constructions and phrases. Trék
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simple  Inactive Member |
"You could have 10 deities creating 10 different things, and this would not suddenly require 9 deities and their creations to dissappear in a puff of green smoke and mirrors."
quote:Afraid not. There is no way to pull deities out of anywhere else. when it comes to what the bible talks about. It has the one creator. Saying others you dream up might exist doesn't come from the God of the majority of the US. Call it illogical and a fallacy if you like. Empty words. Empty reason. quote:No idea what you are talking about. quote:Actually, john is not just weak on this thread, apparently he is dead. quote:OK. You have actually demondtrated nothing at all! Sorry that is news to you. Is this why you haunt threads where the party you are responding to can't talk back? ha.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Thank you.
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Admin Director Posts: 12998 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
RAZD writes: Interesting. John 10-10 is banned and you are answering for him. John 10:10 wasn't banned, his permissions were removed from the science forums, see Message 273. All members with forum restrictions had them removed with the release of dBoard 2.0, so John 10:10 can once again post here if he wishes. However, if he sees this I caution him to give some thought and attention to why he was presenting so contradictory a picture of himself that it was a consistent force drawing the thread off-topic. If that problem reappears then his permissions in the science forums will again be removed.
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Admin Director Posts: 12998 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
This thread seems to be degenerating into petty bickering. If the level of discourse isn't elevated soon there'll have to be some kind of administrative action, perhaps rewarding the guilty and punishing the innocent.
Seriously, we can do better.
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Jon Inactive Member |
I was hoping you would be able add more to your argument (lets say, a fact or two), but that will not be happening, as I've just posted the 300th post.
Trék
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