Ray Comfort on The Atheist Experience

Sam Harris is no different than an apologist. He is a conman. He pontificates on subjects he has no expertise in. He does not represent any atheists or atheist views other than himself and his own views. He promotes hate and division. He is a vile human being.

Your god sounds like a right, real asshole. Needy, insecure narcissist(remind you of anyone?)The thing that drives me crazy about fundies is that they claim all this super supernatural crap for their god. Omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence and then they shrink it down as this spiteful, vengeful toddler.
That you think you could understand or conceive of something so powerful is laughable. To explain all these inconsistencies, all of you just string impressive sounding words together.Laughable.

I was raised nominally Catholic, but have never had an actual belief in the supernatural. As a child I may have but as I grew older I left behind childish beliefs. I never decided christian beleif was not worth my time.(Why do you always throw out strawman arguments? Is it because you have no actual arguments? I don't know them at all. Another strawman? Strawman alert. I have no spite for him. He is a charlatan and a serial liar. This is proven. Whatever. There is no evidence for a god and their is no evidence for the jesus of your bible. If there is a god being, it is beyond our ken to even conceive. So no I have no belief there is a god, of any sort. There is no such thing as supernatural. If there were there would be some sort of evidence. Irrelevant. Evidently you have trouble understanding unable to conceive of something.Maybe next time drop all the strawman arguments.

Many people have given their lives for a multitude of stupid pointless reasons. It means nothing.

Doesn't matter facts show she is wrong. Beliefs are not correct just because someone believes them. All beliefs are not equal.

No shit, that would be because umm THEIR NOT CATHOLIC.It would be really stupid for Lutherans to have a Catholic mass.

Yes specifically. Where do you think Protestantism gets its name from?

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Six princes of the Holy Roman Empire and rulers of fourteen Imperial Free Cities, who issued a protest (or dissent) against the edict of the Diet of Speyer (1529), were the first individuals to be called Protestants

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Protestantism - WikipediaThose are the facts. No revisionism allowed.Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Protestantism all came from Catholicism. That is a fact
Not debatable because it is undeniable. I dont care if you think there is some "pure" church pre RCC. Protestantism is a reaction to perceived issues with Catholicism.
All Protestant churches are offshoots of Catholicism. Full stop
Any other claim is a denial of historical fact.
The rest of your post is irrelevant.Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Why the snide personal comments and attacks? Because you have no real argument? This is the behavior that I think should disqualify you as a moderator. We see this behavior a lot from you.

Exactly. Phat and Faith seem to want to push the idea that Protestantism is some sort of pure pre-RCC manifestation. Protestantism exists because of the RCC. It started out as a political break and doctrinal arguments were used to justify it.

You are putting up a strawman. The facts are all Protestant churches derived form Catholicism. They were not created from a vacuum.