Ray Comfort on The Atheist Experience

Nope.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Just like EVERY Carny Barker. "This way to the Egress folk!"

Famous story of the ultimate Barker, Ripley. As a young man he worked carnival Freak shows but the problem was the people stood around looking at the Freaks. So to move one group out and the next group in he used the fact that they were greedy and "No compendre. " He would call out "Now this way to the Egress" and the crowd not knowing what an egress was gladly walked out the exit so the next flock of rubes could pay and enter.The Apologists are classic Carny Barkers. Just like EVERY Carny Barker. "This way to the Egress folk!"To be successful the conman must come across as honest and genuine, using his personality to spread his message.

But what I actually say is so far I see no evidence that any apologist is not a sham and snake-oil salesman. I don't doubt that many might even believe the snake oil really has medicinal properties but they never seem to test their product to find out if it really is medicinal.Bring an apologist who actually tests the product they sell against reality and maybe I will agree that that apologist is not a snake-oil salesman.Bring me one that says "The God in Genesis 1 is not the same God as in Genesis 2&3 and the Serpent told the truth while God lied."

Yet it is what is actually written in the Bible even if it does not support the God and Jesus you want to create. I do not support my position, rather what is actually written in the Bible supports my position.

How can I know it is God talking to me?Further, what does that have to do with what is actually written in the Bible?

No Phat, that is NOT what I say. I don't teach a Bible, I report what the Bible actually says.The characters in the stories are, guess what? They are characters in stories.Sorry Phat but thems the actual reality.AbE: I often pray, not any time, and I can even walk and pray at the same time. Talk to God? How would I know I was talking to God?You keep harping on the same old stuff yet never ever explain how it is possible or how anyone could know that is what they were doing.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

Explain to me how I could know I was having a conversation/dialogue or even monologue with God?

No Phat, I have asked at least once on this board "How can anyone know they are close to God or that they were talking to God.And no one has ever offered an answer.And I have said at least once on this board that it is the content that is significant rather than the source. If someone comes up with a wise thought then that is good regardless of whence came that wisdom. All of the Gods and gods humanity has ever created should be thrown away. Throw away the "Savior" and the "Father" and the "Servant". Stop waiting for God to make you win the lottery or fix Social Security or solve Global Warming or End War. GOD is not Jeeves. Who else can carry in groceries?

Knowing and believing are not synonymous. So a Christian can only gain wisdom through God, not through experience or evidence or environment or ...? Not even at the level of word salad rather simple sloganizing. You have no light has abso0lutely no meaning Phat. I think you have no idea of what prayer is.

Do you have any idea just how silly that statement is? Are you possibly under the impression that you can do something to increase God? Do you have any idea of how silly that statement is? Are you under the impression that I should expect the Holy Jeeves to make my breakfast?

So you are saying my beliefs were formed hrough knowledge instead of ignorance? No, I scoff at those ideas because they are simply silly.No one can know they are saved while they are still alive. Judgement takes place after we die.Selling salvation is easy and profitable and the guy pitching the spiel from the back of the Medicine Wagon won't be around if the customers find out the snake-oil didn't work. And he keeps the horse hitched just in case egress is the better choice.But what is amazing is even after they get exposed as cons they still get embraced by their victims. "It's Fool Me Once"; "Oh wow, do it again!"

I'm sorry Phat but there is one major reason to dismiss the marketing of salvation and that is the simple fact that it is impossible for any of the people marketing salvation to even know if there is even ANYTHING in the bottle they are selling.

And so another platitude with no meaning. And I have never said that I can do everything myself so again, your rep0ly is simply another irrelevant platitude. I don't know Phat. Again, how would I or anyone know that? I doubt it would help but a good place to start would be a to take time to contemplate what you really can do and then to do it.

Why would it matter? What is important is the content and results.