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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Here.
Answers in Genesis, recognized as one of the strongest advocates for homeschooling in America, has been kicked out of two homeschool conventions where AiG President Ken Ham had been scheduled to speak. In addition, AiG as an exhibitor has also been expelled. [...] At the end of the day, they are censors. They claim to want open debate and discussion, but when we engage them in the battle of ideas, they launch invectives and ad hominem arguments, and then seek to exclude AiG from the debate. Someone should make a movie about that.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The Christian Cult of Ignorance parents that support such home schooling abortions should still be ashamed of themselves.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped! |
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
But still, a creationist cat fight! Anyone bring the popcorn?
Creationists, especially Ken Ham, have a long-ish history of reserving their worst vitriol for other creationists whose theology "isn't quite right". Many years ago, a few years after Ken Ham started working for the ICR (he ran their "Back to Genesis" seminars), NCSE reported on his vicious attacks against some old-earth creationists, I think on a talk-radio show.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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Someone should make a movie about that. They could call it.... Dumb and DumberThe Great Brain Robbery Psycho Silence of the Ham The Terminated Inglorious Basterds Unforgiven Touch of Evil Despicable Me Cast Away Gone With the Wind True Lies The Departed The Nutty Professor Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Dr Adequate writes: Here.
Answers in Genesis, recognized as one of the strongest advocates for homeschooling in America, has been kicked out of two homeschool conventions where AiG President Ken Ham had been scheduled to speak. In addition, AiG as an exhibitor has also been expelled. [...] At the end of the day, they are censors. They claim to want open debate and discussion, but when we engage them in the battle of ideas, they launch invectives and ad hominem arguments, and then seek to exclude AiG from the debate. Someone should make a movie about that. Homeschooling conventions are not necessarily Christian or Biblical. The comprise of all varieties of ideologies, some which would be incompatible with AIG. I assume all conventions are pretty much like the Washington State WHO. According to Wiki, "Its mission is to serve the diverse interests of home-based education in Washington State. WHO is nonpartisan, nonsectarian, and nondiscriminating in its views of homeschooling and participation in its activities. " BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1344 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: I assume all conventions are pretty much like the Washington State WHO. According to Wiki, "Its mission is to serve the diverse interests of home-based education in Washington State. WHO is nonpartisan, nonsectarian, and nondiscriminating in its views of homeschooling and participation in its activities. " yes, the home schooling organizations around here are like that, too. they advertise nonpartisanship (and hand out lawn signs for republican candidates), nonsectarian (and start their meetings with a prayer), and nondiscrimation of views (and look at you really funny when you question the other two). when you actually show up to one, you find approximately two groups of people:
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Here is a list of speakers at their next convention. I'm sure you and I would come to opposite conclusions from this list.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Homeschooling conventions are not necessarily Christian or Biblical. The comprise of all varieties of ideologies, some which would be incompatible with AIG. The board of this particular homeschooling convention is exclusively Christian, Biblical, and YEC, and say that they "largely share AIG's perspective". But obviously not "largely" enough. From their email to Ham:
After much prayer and deliberation over the weekend, Great Homeschool Convention's Advisory Board has unanimously decided to disinvite Ken and AIG from all future conventions, including the Cincinnati convention next week. The Board believes this to be the Lord's will for our convention and searched the Scriptures for the mind of the Lord and the leadership of the Holy Spirit before arriving at this decision. [...] Please know that our Board is 100% young earth and we largely share AIG's perspective from a scientific standpoint. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
You would think buz would at least read the article that was referenced on this before he commented.
Nah, I guess wouldn't think he would.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
subbie writes: Here is a list of speakers at their next convention. I'm sure you and I would come to opposite conclusions from this list. How so? In my reading of the whole thing, unless I missed something I only saw the word Christian once and never saw the word, Bible. I did see one couple, one of which was black and one white which debunks Arachophilia's bogus point. . How so would we come to opposite positions? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Will you read the freaking link in the OP.
quote: No, not christian at all. Must be those damn Unitarians. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Theodoric writes: You would think buz would at least read the article that was referenced on this before he commented. Nah, I guess wouldn't think he would. My comments pertained to homeschooling organizations at large. Evidently some are more diverse and inclusive than others. Admittedly, I have little knowledge about the organizations, though I know people of diverse ideologies who homeschool, one large family in particular, being more Native American pagan in belief, having no regard for anything Biblical. I've been in their home and we get along better better than most who know them, though we have little in common ideologically. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
My comments pertained to homeschooling organizations at large. Evidently some are more diverse and inclusive than others. Admittedly, I have little knowledge about the organizations, Well, when did lack of knowledge ever keep you from spouting off?
{Move along - No real content here. - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : It the stuff in red. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Native American pagan... Maybe they are right and you are wrong. From Alexander Pope, Essay on Man:
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Well, when did lack of knowledge ever keep you from spouting off? Shall we strive for a little more "nice", Minnesota or otherwise? No replies to this message, in this topic. There is a better place somewhere (something to do with "important topics"). Adminnemooseus
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