Loudmouth:
______________________________________________________________________The problem that Behe faces is that he extrapolates IC systems created through manufacture to biological IC systems that are created through biological reproduction. The two are not comparable.
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Say a person builds a robot that can build other robots. The parts to the robot did not come together on their own, they needed a designer, yet the robots can "reproduce". The two ARE comparable.
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Why do we infer intelligent design when we find pottery shards? Because we have independent/separate evidence for an intelligence and a mechanism used by that intelligence that could have resulted in that pottery shard.
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If you're going to use that reasoning, then show me an example in nature of one species evolving into a new one. You don't have an example. Just theories. It's the same with Intellegent design. We don't see the hand of God reaching out of the clouds and placing a new animal on the planet, but through theories of probability, we can infer they were designed.
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Behe tries to argue that we can detect design without both an evidenced intelligence and an evidenced mechanism, yet he has failed to do so with one present day example.
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Read "The Design Inference: eliminating chance through small probabilities", by William Dembski, mathematician of Baylor University. In it he identifies that the two key components of design are a Recognizable Pattern and an Improbable Object.
Example, any randomn mountain side is an improbable object since that particular mountain side is unique. However, a randomn mountian side does not usually follow a recognizable pattern. Mt. Rushmore is an inprobable object because rocks don't usually form like that, but it also bears a recognizable Pattern, and thus, the characteristics of design.