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Author | Topic: What Properties Might Light of Millennia Past Have that Today's Doesn't? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 4226 days) Posts: 565 Joined:
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Inadequate, your attempts at defensive humour are pathetic. Go treat your snide self to another dog.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Inadequate, your attempts at defensive humour are pathetic. Go treat your snide self to another dog. Apparently humor is one more thing you don't know about. I shall not even speculate as to how the adjective "defensive" got attached to the noun. There is no humor intended. I have asked you a serious question, which so far you have evaded.
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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...I'd like to ask that anyone receiving a cryptic or evasive response could nonetheless reply constructively, perhaps with further clarification or whatever else might help the discussion move forward?
--Percy
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 4226 days) Posts: 565 Joined:
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No, Coy, you don't get it. Claims for both the Bunk to have occurred and leprechauns to have existed fail on the conceptual level first and the Bunk's failure is far more dismal than that of leprechauns. That is because the leprechauns' hypothesis proposes hypothetical objects hiding pots of gold which are quite conceivable objects whereas the bang concept operates with the idea of space expanding into itself which is a more twisted proposal impossible to visualise or conceptualise in any way, shape or form. The idea could be taken on faith only and therefore any evidence suggested for its physical reality is to be treated with an expanding grain of salt.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
...I'd like to ask that anyone receiving a cryptic or evasive response could nonetheless reply constructively, perhaps with further clarification or whatever else might help the discussion move forward? Well, what would help the discussion move forward would be for him to answer my question. I can't do that for him.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined:
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No, Coy, you don't get it. Claims for both the Bunk to have occurred and leprechauns to have existed fail on the conceptual level first and the Bunk's failure is far more dismal than that of leprechauns. That is because the leprechauns' hypothesis proposes hypothetical objects hiding pots of gold which are quite conceivable objects whereas the bang concept operates with the idea of space expanding into itself which is a more twisted proposal impossible to visualise or conceptualise in any way, shape or form. If it is impossible to conceptualize in any way, how is it that all those physicists manage to conceptualize it? It may be true that you personally find it impossible to understand, but this disability is far from being universal, and the nature of the cosmos is fortunately not limited by by the deficiencies of your intelligence.
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Percy Member Posts: 22954 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Dr Adequate writes: Well, what would help the discussion move forward would be for him to answer my question. I can't do that for him. I think a more direct approach to moving the discussion forward would be to repeat your question, perhaps at greater length since Al may have ignored it because he failed to grasp its significance or relevance. --Percy
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Sure. My question again.
In an attempt to stop you from posting endless incomprehensible bullshit, I shall put this in the form of a yes-or-no question. According to your ideas about time, it seems that it is "physically impossible in principle" to correctly assert that a big bang happened approximately thirteen billion years ago. According to your ideas, is it also "physically impossible in principle" to correctly assert that I ate a hotdog last Wednesday? But I don't think that repeating it really moves the discussion forward, it's more like jogging on the spot. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Well, what would help the discussion move forward would be for him to answer my question. Evasion and gibberish is an answer to your question. What you are looking for is some sort of admission from AM that you are right. I don't think it is reasonable to expect that. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. Well, you may still have time to register to vote. Even North Carolinians can still register for early voting. State Registration Deadlines
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 4226 days) Posts: 565 Joined:
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Oh, that, Inadequate. You mean mathemagicians? Because in physics space is but an abstract relation not a substance that can expand. But in mathemagic they use the trick of multiplying zero by zero while introducing all kinds of fractions by sleight-of-hand. The fractions multiplying imitate a meaningful physical activity. They imagine all kinds of lines stretching. Vectors, tensors, lines of force and suchlike and then forget to tell the public that the lines exist only on paper. That's how it's done in a nutshell.
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onifre Member (Idle past 3210 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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Oh, that, Inadequate. You mean mathemagicians? Because in physics space is but an abstract relation not a substance that can expand. But in mathemagic they use the trick of multiplying zero by zero while introducing all kinds of fractions by sleight-of-hand. The fractions multiplying imitate a meaningful physical activity. They imagine all kinds of lines stretching. Vectors, tensors, lines of force and suchlike and then forget to tell the public that the lines exist only on paper. That's how it's done in a nutshell. Your argument pretty much boils down to: "fuck science, math, physics and all your fancy numbers." As a comedian, I thank you for that. - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1763 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
In physics space is a abstract relation. "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 4226 days) Posts: 565 Joined:
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Sorry, Nuke, Inadequate's question was loaded with suggestion that the Big Bunk creation event of 20th century scholastics was as factual as his consuming a hot dog last Wednesday. The feline can ask loaded questions too. One of these events is impossible, which one do you think that is?
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tsig Member (Idle past 3168 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
Yes there is. The earth is orders of magnitude younger than 4.56 billions years old, therefore there has been accelerated radioactive decay.
You seem to have arrived at your conclusion in advance of the facts.
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Admin Director Posts: 13108 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Hi Al,
It takes two to tango. Since this digression onto the Big Bang is becoming much more lengthy than it could have been, it is probably best to drop the topic. The topic of this thread is whether light might have had different properties in the past than it does today. Since most of what I seem to be doing in this thread is seeking clarification and suggesting that people focus on the topic, I'm switching to my moderator role.
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