Politicizing the AZ massacre

Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkUiMo5tZlgChris Mathews followed up with an apology (the link shows up after your video is done).Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGsHB7Hjpi4I'm assuming you're referring to Bill Maher's comment at the end: "I have zero doubt, that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people would not be dieing needlessly tommorrow." To that, I would agree.This (apparently) was a follow up to some nobody's blog comment wishing Dick Cheney would die.Re: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGhoYT84Jeg&feature=playe...If only their listeners would recognize Limbaugh, Beck, et all as being bad comedians not unlike Sandra Bernhard, rather than being valuable sources of political insight.MooseEdited by Minnemooseus, : "the listeners" to "their listeners".Edited by Minnemooseus, : "These" to "This".

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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

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"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

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"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

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"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien

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"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

Here are some additional examples of our warm and fuzzy liberals expressing their fond regards for our (then) president:

Ok, but who are these people? Be specific. Which of them was nominated by the DNC to run for Vice-President of the United States of America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxVVhF3jQis More?I can keep this up all night. Examples of lefties and their hate speech are legion.This is just to remind folks that this type of hate speech is far more common on the left than on the right.Those on the right far more often don't protest at all! But all of that is starting to change, and that's probably why there is so much concern from the left. They don't own the streets any more! There are more media out there than they can control!Those on the right are starting to fight back, and the lefties don't like that at all!Now why don't we all take this forum back to the issues it is meant for, the EvC discussion? I will if you will.

August 1, 2004: The Craig Kilborn show superimposes "Snipers Wanted" over a photo of President George W. Bush. Here's another example of a leftie's political "discussion."Feeling warm and fuzzy yet? There's a lot more.Lefties have been doing this for years. It is only lately that folks are challenging them for it.

Then there is always the lefties' old favorite: Had enough yet?Crash, are you ready to admit you were wrong when you claimed all the "dangerous" rhetoric was on the right?

Ok, but when are you going to start? Well, right. The people of Tuscon, for instance, didn't particularly appreciate how those on the right are starting to fight back. I bet Vernon Hunter didn't like it at all when right-winger Joseph Stack decided to "fight back."You're racking up bumper stickers, Coyote, and we're talking about body counts. And you think it's "worse on the left." You're truly blinded by your need to defend your own side.

I don't even see a person in that image. Who, precisely, is engaging in that speech? A car? Had enough of what? You've not presented even a single example of murder rhetoric from the professional left. You're certainly demonstrating the Gish Gallop. You've not attempted to defend even a single one of your examples.Where is the murder speech from Democrats as prominent as Sarah Palin? Be specific.Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.

You can dodge and weave all you want, but you can't escape the lefties who are making all of these comments and putting up all of these signs. You know, that "dangerous" rhetoric we've been hearing so much about for the last ten days or so? Your side owns these comments and you can't escape them!Here's another example:Betty Williams, Nobel Peace Prize Laureatehttp://tv.breitbart.com/...er-audio-i-could-kill-george-bushOn July 24, 2006, while delivering a speech at the Earth Dialogue forums, Williams told school children at the Brisbane City Hall, "I have a very hard time with this word 'non-violence,' because I don't believe that I am non-violent." Decrying the deaths of innocent children in wartime, she went on to say,

"Right now, I would love to kill George Bush. I don't know how I ever got a Nobel Peace Prize, because when I see children die the anger in me is just beyond belief. It's our duty as human beings, whatever age we are, to become the protectors of human life."

Betty Williams (peace activist) - Wikipedia(Can you just feel the love?)

Yes, we do object a little when congresswomen get shot.You apparently find it an occasion to adopt a triumphalist tone. For myself, if it had been a Republican who had been shot, I should not have written: "Those on the left are starting to fight back, and the righties don't like that at all!"But tastes differ, and it would be a strange world if we were all alike.

So do we. You have still not accepted that it was an isolated nutcase that did the shooting, and still are trying to pin the blame on the conservative side of the political spectrum. That's a lie start to finish, as even most of the mainstream media has finally started to admit. The leftie lie didn't take this time, eh? Now you're arguing like a creationist. The "starting to fight back" is just what I'm doing now, fighting against the lies of the left instead of just letting them go, as I would have done a year ago. But just like a creationist you have deliberately twisted my statement into a deliberate misrepresentation. More and more folks are going to be calling lefties on their lies. No wonder you're upset!But that's OK. I'm used to that kind of debate after about ten years of debating with creationists. It has been good practice! Tastes differ, but some facts remain the same in spite of massive spinning. In this case the lefties tried to spin (let no crisis go to waste?) but got caught.Oh, and the guy who was shot ten days ago then arrested and sent for psychiatric evaluation for the "You're Dead" comment to a Tea Party leader? Remember James Eric Fuller? He was shooting his mouth off the day before too: Tucson Victim Fuller Called For ‘Torturing’ Conservatives, Making ‘Ear Necklace’Feel the love!You have to admit, lefties seem to do quite well with the hate speech. Maybe it's just more practice?

Can you remind me what year it was that Betty Williams was nominated by the DNC to be the Vice-Presidential candidate, Coyote? No? (Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that Betty Williams is neither a citizen of the US nor resides within its borders?)Can you remind me in what capacity Betty Williams, who is a citizen of Ireland, is authorized to speak for American liberals?Is this like how you idiots on the right wanted Julian Assange "arrested for treason"?

Your fantasies about me, though amusing, are hardly germane to the topic.

But nobody's done that, Coyote. After all this, how is it that you still don't understand the claim that is being made? Misrepresentation?

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Those on the left are starting to fight back, and the righties don't like that at all!

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Those words appeared in your post. Did you write them or not? Maybe he was angry after being shot by one of your guys. If the best we can headline is Sandra Bernhard, for Christ's sake, I would say we're not doing very well at all. Where are all the bombs at Tea Party rallies? Why are we so bad at inciting violence that Sarah Palin has to make up death threats against herself? I really think we on the left aren't getting a lot of bang (bang bang) for our buck, here.

...if you aren't completely sanguine and forgiving about the fact that conservatives want to and are trying to kill you, you're just as bad as them, or even worse!

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Take a page from Harry Wittington's book and apologize to the people who are trying to shoot you. Double-standards aren't just for minorities, anymore!