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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
frako writes: Hackers attack Master card because it stopped business with Wikileaks. They are also attacking the pages of the Swedish prosecution. 4chan. don't fuck with them.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2973 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
allegedly because the local US newspapers report very little on international affairs. Somehow, I doubt it. Can anyone from the US corroborate this?
I don't think I've read a local news paper other than the New York Times in about 5 years. I get all my news from the internets which has plenty on the Wikileaks. I've been following it since back when there was that video about the civilian deaths in Iraq. What's happening now is exactly what I expected would happen. He would be silenced, and eventually he will be completely shut down. I sure hope not though. - Oni
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
hat's happening now is exactly what I expected would happen. He would be silenced, and eventually he will be completely shut down. What makes you think he will be silenced?
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
lol every second someone signs the petition
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onifre Member (Idle past 2973 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
What makes you think he will be silenced?
Martin Luther King, JFK, Malcom X, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Lennon, Gandhi...and all the way back to Jesus.- Oni
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Martin Luther King, JFK, Malcom X, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Lennon, Gandhi...and all the way back to Jesus. - Oni It is a bit different now he said it himself if he should die the most juice stuff gets out
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Some evidence on Pfizer the largest global pharmaceutical comany hiering detectives to find some dirt on the nigerian state prosicutor to have him drop the investigation of drug tests on nigerian children that had meningitis.
Last year a settlement was made in this case and Pfizer payed Nigeria 75 million EUR in damages for the dead children.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
A noter interesting wikileak
Translation of the news article "As a secret document from the American embassy in Rome shows. The Irish commission under the lead of judge Yvonne Murphy, addressed a request for information on abused children directly to the Vatican officials. They then responded that the request did not go trough the proper procedure because it circumvented official diplomatic channels so they where not willing to provide any information. " This shows the grate reluctantcy of the RCC to bring the molestion to light. Vsak dan prvi - 24ur.com
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
Onifre says in Message 61 of the Obama thread;
Americans don't have the time and effort to give a fuck about what goes on behind closed doors, they don't have time to google every word that is said in the media. They turn the TV on, watch whatever news source they're used to watching, and whatever is said they pretty much trust. Why? Because they have their lives, kids, jobs, spouses, little league practice, school functions, etc, etc, etc, to keep them busy and distracted. I think this really captures the general 'every-man' reaction to the Wikileaks anomaly. We know this stuff goes on and we seem to expect it to go on. We don't really want to know who gets stepped on so long as it is not us directly. Cheeseburgers and liposuction for everyone. I think Wikileaks should be institutionalized. A sort of bureau of sabotage (Keith Laumer-Retief stories {abe; or is it Herbert}). It is a healthy bit of introspection. Edited by Dogmafood, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
We don't really want to know who gets stepped on so long as it is not us directly. Cheeseburgers and liposuction for everyone. Well the romans said give the people breed and games (and the few could do what they wanted with the meny) now its give the people fast food and x- box-ses(or tvs or whatever keeps you sitting at the couch not doing anythig about the problems)
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
Well the romans said give the people breed and games (and the few could do what they wanted with the meny) Are we really so docile? I can't believe it. How does this stuff pass? Look at the content of some of these documents and all I heard about today on the news was the fact that Assange was granted bail for a charge of having sex without a condom. And the intrepid Swedes are pursuing justice at all costs. How much more blatant could this diversion of attention be? Sometimes I look at the human race and wonder how full of shit we really are.
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
The Guardian writes: Julian Assange walks out of the High Court with a hand raised. "It's great to smell the fresh air of London again." Clearly he is taking the piss.
Source TTFN, WK Edited by Admin, : Fix link.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3985 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.2
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Dogmafood writes: I think Wikileaks should be institutionalized. A sort of bureau of sabotage (Keith Laumer-Retief stories {abe; or is it Herbert}). It is a healthy bit of introspection. Definitely Laumer. I started reading his Retief satires in the mid 60s, and they contributed to my teenage wasteland. Laumer served in both the Air Force and the Foreign Service, so he knew of what he wrote when he introduced a galactic diplomat who recognized the bright side to a government whose decisions were often strangled by bureaucratic indifference and inertia--usually in a way, under the deft hand of Retief, that, if not making the galaxy a better place, at least left it limping along a while longer. Clearly, Assange's enemies prefer to discredit Assange--I don't expect an assassin's bullet or suspicious accident. I do expect another seamy, discrediting accusation to be leveled against Assange and/or Wikileaks soon. I suspect that what bothers governments most about Wikileaks is that every successful release of secret material recruits more Wikileakers. If sufficient numbers of people decide unsavory (to them) secrets should be outed, governments will fall. I know there's a balance, I see it when I swing past. -J. Mellencamp Real things always push back.-William James
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined:
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Definitely Laumer. Those are the stories I remembered but then I recalled that there is a similar concept in Herbert's 'The Dosadi Experiment'. I am not sure which one came first.
Clearly, Assange's enemies prefer to discredit Assange--I don't expect an assassin's bullet or suspicious accident. I do expect another seamy, discrediting accusation to be leveled against Assange and/or Wikileaks soon. Boy they sure got the spin machine up in the big gear. What was it Porter Goss said? "Deny everything, admit nothing and make counter accusations." I am sure that Assange has committed his share of indiscretions but these accusations, at this time, are pathetically transparent. Does Sweden defend all their virtuous matron's with such doggedness?
I suspect that what bothers governments most about Wikileaks is that every successful release of secret material recruits more Wikileakers. If sufficient numbers of people decide unsavory (to them) secrets should be outed, governments will fall. I agree and this exposes their self-centred groping for power and exclusivity. All of these people are given the authority to operate in secret because it is assumed that they are people of honour and integrity. When these qualities are found to be lacking it shows that our trust was misplaced. Isn't it the gov't that is always saying that if we have nothing to hide we have nothing to fear? They can fondle my testicles at the airport but I can't know the particulars behind state sponsored executions? Why? Because I am untrustworthy? I might be one of the enemy? Most likely because I will say 'No. It is not acceptable to kill 12 yr old children while you hunt down nefarious characters who would do us all harm." All secrecy and no privacy. I haven't reviewed all of the released material but I haven't seen anything that actually threatens anybodies life {ABE; It would be easy for me to miss}. Certainly nothing that threatens life in the way that an unmanned drone does. I would say that Assange et al are being responsible in their handling of the information. The self sanctifying defenders of the 'public good' and national security are the ones we need to subdue. Edited by Dogmafood, : No reason given.
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