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Silent H
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Message 6 of 6 (71457)
12-07-2003 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Russell E. Rierson
11-22-2003 11:14 PM


Too late on the draw on this one. :ae: delivered almost everything I was going to throw at you. This is truly your most problematic argument to date.
From point 5 (where you mistake models as determining rather than predicting dynamics) on, I can find few planks that are either logically necessary or accurate to our understanding of the world.
In addition to the other posters' valid points, here are a couple other ones:
1) Quantum Mechanics does not show order at all. While I believe there may be an underlying deterministic model discovered at some later date, right now the money is not on that. So at the subatomic level there is no principle of organization.
2) There is no known unified principle in physics. While they hold that at as a holy grail, it is currently just as mythic. There appears to be many separate forces acting independently and without organization.
I think the best you can escape with, and that is with everyone granting you some terrible leaps of logic, is that there may be a pantheon of gods struggling to assert some sort of order, but the plans have not been finalized.
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holmes

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