Even if there was a Designer, does it matter?

Not really. Apples would still fall from trees because of gravity, not god. Unless, of course, god has been lying to us all that time and tweaks all our senses and measuring devices in to making it look like he didn't do it.

Hi Parasomnium, I don't agree on this one. Why would the scientific method be flawed if god/ID existed? The fact that some things are designed (cars, etc.) does not mean that everything is designed. We can distinguish between design and non-design (although sometimes it's really hard), and so far no design has been detected in nature. But that does not prove that god does not exist and that nothing is designed in nature. He could theoretically still have designed the first life or the big bang and then sit back and drink cocktails the rest of his life, while watching his self-created soap unfold...

This is of course not true. A designer could have designed life with the plan to let it evolve.The existence or non-existence of a designer does in no way change anything we already know about the world. Evolution by means of random mutation, natural selection etc. takes place, so if life was really designed with a plan, evolution must have been part of that plan (or the plan went wrong).Edited by Dirk, : No reason given.Edited by Dirk, : tyop

Hi Rahvin, You said this several times now, but can you explain why this is so? If the first life form was designed and then left to itself to evolve due to random mutation, natural selection etc, it still means that there was a designer, and evolutionary theory would still be (sort of) correct. In fact, a designer could even have planned it that way. So, why must evolutionary theory be wrong if a designer exists?Edited by Dirk, : No reason given.

The problem here is, of course, that ID is not interested in showing the method, but only in the identity of the designer. I wonder what would happen if they ever would be able to prove ID, and that it turns out that it was not god who did it, but Thor or Zeus...