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ringo Member (Idle past 666 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
How productive is that? We get to share the blame."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1698 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yea, 'cause I have kids I try to be a cock-eyed optimist but realistically we are doomed. My plan B is to die by the time it gets bad. This is SO silly. Every such prophecy of doom by climate change has failed and yet you all go on expecting it to come based on the latest prophecy. Lots of Americans are thinking about how to reduce the problem, and America is the most inventive when it comes to anything like that. There isn't the urgency the doomsayers keep predicting but we still want to do what we can to reduce the problem and Americans are in fact doing it, in various ways out of the public eye. I hear discussions of these things on the radio all the time. blaming America is just the usual Hate-America Leftist stuff, really because we ARE good, because we are successful. It's just envy that makes the sluggard nations hate us, and the American Leftists have no excuse. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 666 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
We neither hate you nor envy you. We're often baffled by your idiocy. It's just envy that makes the sluggard nations hate us...."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1698 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Canada isn't what I had in mind as a sluggard nation, but you do raise an issue I've wondered about before. Canada has the same freedoms we have, right? Why isn't there as much inventiveness among you as there has traditionally been in America? Have you thought about it? Do you have an explanation? I mean America has produced lots of inventors who just plug away in their basements or garages or whatever and invent this or that. Probably lots more who aren't successful than are but still there's a mentality toward invention there. I don't really see why other free nations wouldn't promote the same inventiveness.
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ringo Member (Idle past 666 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
What makes you think there hasn't been? Try googling "Canadian inventions". Wikipedia has a nice list.
Why isn't there as much inventiveness among you as their has traditionally been in America? Faith writes:
Well, we don't brag about it as loudly. I don't really see why other free nations wouldn't promote the same inventiveness."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1698 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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OK good, I'm glad to hear it.
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frako Member Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
World Intellectual Property Indicators - Wikipedia
LMAO poor faith so deluded, you really believe your own hype. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Faith writes: I see this as more a phenomenon of the storied past. America still has its inventors, chiefly in the information and data technology realm...but these inventors are also as prevalent in China, India, and even Indonesia. they just don't have the support of their governments as ours do here. I mean America has produced lots of inventors who just plug away in their basements or garages or whatever and invent this or that. Probably lots more who aren't successful than are but still, there's a mentality toward invention there. I don't really see why other free nations wouldn't promote the same inventiveness. I fear that the revival of patriotism and small business inventiveness that the populists have reawakened is not the same as America in the heyday of the fifties and early sixties. Reagan stirred it up too, but at the cost of beginning the enormous debts which we see today. One fact on the debt (and deficits) that is ignored is the fact that back in the day, we only ran up the debt during times of war and repaid it in peacetime. Now, the evidence shows that we are running up the debt now...in times of relative prosperity,m and putting it out of reach of ever getting repaid. jar always claims that the bill gets paid, but the evidence shows that the debt is larger than it is possible to pay back. I'm not sure what the thinktanks conclude regarding this inconvenient truth, but we will likely know before another ten years has elapsed. The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.lvin Coolidge "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
jar writes: Revisiting this topic in light of our recent discussions over the possibility of a global collapse of currencies. The Aberration was that period after WWII when the productivity of almost every developed nation except the US had been destroyed.For a period of almost fifty years, the US had a significant advantage; even the very materials to rebuild the infrastructure of Japan, Korea, and western Europe came from the US. In addition, the political regimes in the Soviet Union and its satellites and in China held those peoples back. The one real industrial power in the world was the US and no other nation really competed. But that had not always been the case. Japan, Germany, Italy, France and in particular the British Empire had been equal competitors before WWII, and in many ways maybe even more advanced than the US. The Aberration was a result of the ramped-up capacity of the US as well as the destruction of the economic and industrial capabilities of much of the other industrial nations. A big problem for the US though is that kids were taught that the Aberration was the norm, that the US was the Top Dog and so they had an inviolable right to their prosperity without competition. I have been watching this now for a while, and though I still don't understand precisely the implications, we can discuss it. It appears that part of the current global trade wars and competition for resources, in general, involves the US Dollar vs Other means of supportable currency. I have read where some analysts believe that the next "bubble" that will burst is currency value itself. The Global Pool of Money is by now well observed, and in fact is being used by investors parking their assets. First ioff, I'm not clear on the effect of printing extra dollars, but it is still a problem. It is one way that we stimulate the economy to get out of the 2008 financial crises, a process that took over ten years. Now, however, if another bubble were to burst, we can no longer use the quanitative easing solution that we used last time. I fear that the bill will get paid through many people losing their assets(asses) in the next correction. I did learn some basics, however. I read an article, US Economy Collapse, What Would Happen and How to Prepare which appears to be written by a reputable author who has experience in the financial field. Some of what she teaches:
quote: You seem to pass it all off as the idea that the US is nothing special and that Empires have risen and fallen throughout history. Only time will tell how we will behave should such crises manifest. By the way, look at how the giant pool of money is being spent:
quote: And all of this doesn't even account for the belief of the Biblical Christians and the possibility that they will add to mass hysteria by thinking that the world is in fact ending. Perhaps the global Christian community will be wiser than the hypersensitive.The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide
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jar Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: And all of this doesn't even account for the belief of the Biblical Christians and the possibility that they will add to mass hysteria by thinking that the world is in fact ending. Perhaps the global Christian community will be wiser than the hypersensitive. There is no evidence that any theocratic movement has ever been a solution other than through total domination and oppression of "them".
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
jar writes: Christianity did become a tool of the State, and much of colonialism was justified through church approval(or silence). But is what you're saying that Paul himself began this trend or was it later once Christianity became politically approved? There is no evidence that any theocratic movement has ever been a solution other than through total domination and oppression of "them".The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide
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jar Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Phat writes: But is what you're saying that Paul himself began this trend or was it later once Christianity became politically approved? Christianity was totally irrelevant until Constantine.
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
That would only be true if Jesus was simply human and had no impact. Which gets back to unprovable belief. I argue that the only reason the religion is even relevant today is due more to the power through Jesus than to the nationalism that pushes it.
The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide
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jar Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: I argue that the only reason the religion is even relevant today is due more to the power through Jesus than to the nationalism that pushes it. No, you simply assert that over and over again yet offer absolutely no evidence to support that position. Religions as State Religions though have a long and detailed evidential trail showing their relevancy and effects.
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
You are talking and responding as an observer rather than a participant. You are choosing to use logic, reason, and reality and ignoring the idea that you are a believer.
The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide
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