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Author Topic:   Hypothesis of Microbes
barbara
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Message 1 of 18 (582138)
09-20-2010 1:10 AM


This is probably not going to be considered a possibility but here goes... This planet is dominated by bacteria and it is still dominated by them. We are made of a fusion from the other 2 domains with many other mergers of different species of bacteria, retroviruses, parasites, etc. As a host we also provide a nice stable temperature which to bacteria is ideal as a home, food in exchange for services that aid the host.
I can't help thinking that bacteria built all larger life forms by using their own cells and simultaneously keeping their single cell identity to serve their purpose while allowing us our own sense of identity.
The entire food web is dependent on microbes that enable the producers to grow and provide for higher levels.The environment is the microbes (invisible to us) but their work is evident in all that we can see: trees, plants, soil, etc. Land mass would be a bare wasteland of nothing without microbes. Science is well aware of this fact. This just covers the land, the ocean life follows the same organization pattern.
The evidence from science journals concerning microbial behavior is astonishing of what they are capable of and all they contribute to keep the planet a living one. I admit I have a teleological mindset but do not accept creationists views of a GOD. I have trouble accepting that life won the lottery by randomly finding the correct combination of chemical reactions to build itself.
I could accept that all levels of life are actively coming up with new methods to ensure their survival. All life have in common is the will to survive and all of them interacting in their own self interest by cooperating with each to ensure their future is evident in the patterns you see in nature and in ourselves.
Since all life forms work in colonies of kin and non related beings within our bodies and throughout the entire biosphere, directed existence speaks for all living entities on the planet.
The only difference is eukaryotes in larger forms are entirely dependent on bacteria for survival while the opposite is true in bacteria in that we are replaceable entities. The fossil evidence proves we are replaceable entities in that 99% are extinct while the bacteria have remained the same since their origin. Sure they gained new genes as they moved through time but their identity still is microbial.
My opinion is based on my desire to learn of life's history and it involves educating myself in all fields of science and knowledge from other sources. Since I am not going through the traditional route of a college education, I must rely on the Internet to obtain it. The presentation used in scientific findings to make it more appealing to the reader (I hope this is not the case) and it is the truth is where I arrive at my thoughts on the subject.
Any impute to convince me that this is not correct and why specifically would be appreciated.

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barbara
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Message 4 of 18 (582493)
09-21-2010 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by AZPaul3
09-20-2010 12:37 PM


Re: Vessels of Survival
Then to me it is best to visualize microbes and viruses as machines that built life forms out of their own machines to give us the illusion that we here for a purpose. Wrong choice of words, the illusion part was a side effect of the evolving self awareness part of our brains.
A correct definition of life is necessary right now even if it is arbitrary but we need a reference point. There is just too much information of new discoveries about life that all educational materials that previously describe life's processes is contradicting what is known now.

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barbara
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Message 6 of 18 (582602)
09-22-2010 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by AZPaul3
09-21-2010 11:41 PM


Re: Vessels of Survival
"Life is blind complex chemistry in continuous action" if this is the absolute truth then I believe if or when most people finally accept it and abandon their religious beliefs it will produce chaos and rebellion towards government and its laws that control them.

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barbara
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Message 13 of 18 (582797)
09-23-2010 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by AZPaul3
09-23-2010 2:41 PM


Re: Vessels of Survival
As you are an individual I understand your attitude. It is the masses as a whole that is what i worry about. For example, Hurricane Katrina in its aftermath created abandonment of laws and people naturally resorted to becoming a extremely dangerous animal because their "God" and our government did not save many of them and those that witnessed it immediately became destructive and violent. God and government are not separate entities even though they pretend that they are.

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