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Message 10 of 135 (582195)
09-20-2010 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Strongbow
09-20-2010 9:34 AM


We should also point out that there are examples today of a trait like flight evolving, being lost, and being reacquire so it is entirely possible that dinosaurs could have evolved into flying birds that then evolved into flightless birds.

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Message 15 of 135 (582499)
09-21-2010 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by faith24
09-21-2010 4:44 PM


Actually that doesn't say that birds came before dinos or that dinosaurs evolved from birds, just that the split may well have been earlier and some of the finds may have been misidentified.
This is another example of why Science will work. As more information is learned, even strongly held opinions get challenged.

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Message 23 of 135 (582898)
09-23-2010 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by faith24
09-23-2010 6:17 PM


You know, people always thought that birds evolved from dinosaurs. That's why we got the idea "then how come there are still birds"? So now, they changed it and say that they share a common ancestor. So the ancestor between modern birds and dinosaurs is the Archeopteryx right?
No, not exactly. And no, it is unlikely that Archeopteryx is the common ancestor between birds and dinos.
And I have no opinion yet on those footprints. As the article you linked to says, "Melchor and team indicate that there are some features that do not correspond to bird morphology, but these are few. One example is the presence of pad impressions in some of the footprints. Other features that might be bird-like, but could be common to other theropods include the wide angles between the second and fourth digits."
It is simply too early say what the footprints mean.

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Message 40 of 135 (598468)
12-31-2010 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
12-31-2010 9:07 AM


Re: What's Good For Goose Disallowed For Gander
Buz writes:
I have long argued that dinos are the pre-fallen/cursed/changed longer legged modern serpent kinds, i.e. reptiles, as per the Genesis record.
I point out the many features that dinos share with modern reptiles.
My reference to the similarities is consistently rejected by you people. This is a good example of evidence which you consider legitimate in science but disallow as evidence for creationists.
As pointed out in Message 24 many years ago, there is additional support for the GOE Fallen Serpent loosing its voice saga.
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It looks like there may be additional information coming out.
Associated Scientific Press 11-05-06 16:42 Patagonia, Argentina: Historia Compuesta
It's been reported that scientists working on the newly discovered species, Najash rionegrina, used an MRI on the remains. Early indications show a completely developed larynx of surprising sophistication, far more mammalian than any seen in any serpents.
Dr Jesus Me'Deocre Falsificado said, off the record, that the one thing that was most surprising was that it was almost as though the mucosa had been removed. "Without the mucosa the creature would have been unable to utter even a sound. However, we are planning additional MRI and Cat Scans and there may be indications of a vestigial mucosa."
The findings will be published in a future edition of Historia Compuesta.


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Message 67 of 135 (598704)
01-01-2011 10:33 PM
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01-01-2011 10:25 PM


Asserting absolute nonsense is not evidence Buz
Assuming the accuracy of the Biblical record, the dino reptiles pre-flood would have likely been very lively, given the perfect warm climate that is implicated before the flood changed things.
Buz, the Biblical Flood has been totally refuted and the climate before the date of the flood was just about like now.
See Message 28 and also Message 1.
Trying to introduce such nonsense, particularly in a science forum is just plan silly. You know it ain't gonna fly.
Why do you keep trying to introduce your fantasy and fable in a science forum?

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Message 79 of 135 (598779)
01-02-2011 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Buzsaw
01-02-2011 9:12 AM


The Biblical Exodus never happened and is irrelevant
Or, perhaps better, aware of the evidence that they want to see, as one of the cites linked puts it. I have long regarded this the case with a lot of evidence, for example, the evidence of the Exodus event and other Biblical data which has been cited.
Except when one of us starts a thread on the Exodus you never have any evidence to present.
Why do you continue to bring up silly fables that have been refuted in these Science threads?

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Message 89 of 135 (598846)
01-03-2011 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Buzsaw
01-02-2011 11:08 PM


Re: Observation Needed To Falsify
And we are still waiting for you to actually present any evidence related to the Biblical Exodus over at Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?

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