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What is Life?

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Theodoric
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12-02-2010 9:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 139 by AlphaOmegakid
12-02-2010 6:35 PM

Re: the actual problem
Colors may be fuzzy to the eye, and hard to dicern, indeed. But with instrumentation that can measure wavelengths, it is easy to dircern and define.
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Ok, then tell us about this instrument that can tell us where yellow ends an blue begins.
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12-03-2010 10:21 AM 		Reply to: Message 150 by AlphaOmegakid
12-03-2010 8:43 AM

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Your answer shoots your own arguments down. Previously you said there was instrumentation that can show us where red ends. Now you give us a range? Please also show support that this is the range where red ends. I am not likely to take yours or anyone's assertions solely on their say so.
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Remember the topic is what is life and what is not life. You assert that there is a clear point where something can easily be defined as life or not life. In the color analogy you are asserting there is a point where something is red or not red. Show us that point and show us the device you claim exists that can discern this point.
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Using a range completely destroys your assertions. Give us the exact point on the spectrum.
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12-29-2010 6:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 197 by GDR
12-29-2010 6:48 PM

Re: What is the simplest life form?
jar writes:
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Second, it is NOT directed.
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That is opinion which goes beyond the T of E.
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jar writes:
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Third there is no directionality.
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Again, that is opinion
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jar writes:
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Fourth, what we see is simply what has succeeded.
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Which goes back to the last two points. The theory is a theory as to what happened, not why it happened. It is no different that the scientific answers for how the universe was formed. Science can observe what happened and even how it happened but it can only speculate between random chance, directionality or some combination of the two.
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But that wouldn't be the Theory of Evolution would it. It would be something else.
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