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Topic: archaeology and evolution
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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2316 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: 09-02-2008
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I suggest you read my Message 431. Where I explain why I am posting the way I do.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Γνῶθι Σεαυτόν
In message #13 of this thread archaeologist writes:
the babylonians had batteries thus they had electricity, they (all ancients) had flush toilets thus they knew about germs, bacteria and viruses. they had doctors and dentists thus they had theories of disease. they may not have mentioned the word 'americas' but they traveled to the land, we have roman wrecks off the coast of south america, thus there was a new world. and they had astronomers who charted the stars which means neptune would be included for it is in the heavens as well. as for atoms, who knows, the minoans were known for having telescopes, they could have had microscopes as well but since their civilizatin was destroyed we may never know. And here archaeologist writes:
i am one of the few who does support his arguments, presents evidence, and links, quotes etc This belief must surely strain even his own capacity for credulity. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 822 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 78 of 96 (575276)
08-19-2010 9:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 68 by ICANT
08-19-2010 12:20 AM
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They as our historians recorded and perserved what they wanted us to hear and believe. You must be referring to the Texas Board of Education. That is the only group that I can think of in America that is trying to skew history and hide things from children.
I didn't know until recently that we had 22 African American Republicans elected to congress prior to 1890 and one became speaker of the house. If our history can be erased in a hundred and 30 years why would I believe that the Jews would keep a good record of an event they denied happened? If you know about it, how was it erased? On top of that, how is your ignorance anything more than validity of your ignorance?
Luke is considered a creditable historian by most scholars. Forgoing the validity of this statement, I will ask you this: was "Luke" there? Was the author of "Luke" even named Luke? You seem to not want to address the fact that what we are after is someone who WITNESSED jesus christ in the flesh. No one did. Or if they did, they didn't think he was worthy of documentation. Did "Luke" report on the events? Or did he re-tell them? Better yet, did he just copy what someone else wrote?
So Archaeology bears out that many things recorded in the Bible is true and that Luke was factual. Like Coyote said, Archeology has done a lot more that you don't accept, so it's extremely dishonest for you to all of a sudden accept the field of science just because you claim it proves your beliefs.
"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan
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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: 03-20-2003
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Message 79 of 96 (575334)
08-19-2010 3:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 72 by caffeine
08-19-2010 4:30 AM
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I sit corrected!
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archaeologist
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Message 80 of 96 (575788)
08-21-2010 3:13 AM
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and you see, not one on topic post that carries a real rebuttal supported by evidence...ho hum. nothing new here, i will check back to see if anything new is posted.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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If you're not even going to try to supply the evidence you've repeatedly been asked for in support of your absurd claims ... ... then you might be a creationist!
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jar
Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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You have been asked in Message 21 to provide evidence to support your assertions. You have yet again failed to provide the evidence that support your assertion. Do you plan on continuing to fail to support your assertions when asked? Edited by jar, : appalin spallin and poor word choice.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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shalamabobbi
Member (Idle past 2870 days) Posts: 397 Joined: 01-10-2009
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now the argument that the ancients could not discover evolution because it did not have the tools..
Are you suggesting that they(the ancients) had the technology to do DNA sequencing??
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archaeologist
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Are you suggesting that they(the ancients) had the technology to do DNA sequencing?? they didn't need to, dna sequencing doesn't support evolution. they also knew the truth, evolution did not and does not exist. there is NO evidence archaeologically or scientifically that supports evolution, nor proves it true. it is all inferred, attributed, assumed, credited, conjectured, speculated et al. you cannot prove evolution via fossils, to try to do so requires a suspension of intelligence and a lot of eisigesis.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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they didn't need to, dna sequencing doesn't support evolution. they also knew the truth, evolution did not and does not exist. there is NO evidence archaeologically or scientifically that supports evolution, nor proves it true. it is all inferred, attributed, assumed, credited, conjectured, speculated et al. you cannot prove evolution via fossils, to try to do so requires a suspension of intelligence and a lot of eisigesis. These particular falsehoods are off-topic. You're meant to be telling untruths about archaeology and evolution, not just about evolution in general. Now, do you have any evidence to support your inane claims about archaeology? Perhaps you could start with the one about the ancient Minoans having telescopes. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 369 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Perhaps you could start with the one about the ancient Minoans having telescopes. "To view and be able to portray a perfect image of the constellation Argo on the Phaistos Disk (right), Daedalus could have made telescopes, and even binoculars (left), using rock crystals with optical quality for lenses. It seems likely that many of these pictographs on the Phaistos Disk represent the stars and constellations viewed through those lenses. The Archaeological Museum in Herakleion, Crete has many such lenses on display, several of them found in a sacred cave on Mt. Ida in Crete (3rd left). " source http://www.diskoftheworld.com/diskindex6.htm#lenses
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 87 of 96 (576493)
08-24-2010 9:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 86 by Dogmafood
08-24-2010 9:36 AM
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really?
Got to love those new age quack sites.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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caffeine
Member (Idle past 1045 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: 10-22-2008
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Message 88 of 96 (576500)
08-24-2010 10:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 86 by Dogmafood
08-24-2010 9:36 AM
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Telescopes in ancient times
The main problem with the argument that telescopes were necessary to accuately picture the constllation of Argo is that it's visible to the naked eye. This is why it's one of the constellations named by ancient astronomers. So, no telescope needed to draw constellations. The remainder of the argument here appears to be that several lenses were found in a cave in Crete. This seems to be true, crystals taht could have served as lenses have been found in ancient Crete. It's something of leap to jump from this to telescopes.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 89 of 96 (576503)
08-24-2010 10:25 AM
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Reply to: Message 86 by Dogmafood
08-24-2010 9:36 AM
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To view and be able to portray a perfect image of the constellation Argo..... Obviously the author of this bullshit has never looked at the sky through a telescope. Naked eyes are what you use to see constellations.
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 369 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 90 of 96 (576504)
08-24-2010 10:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 88 by caffeine
08-24-2010 10:21 AM
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Re: Telescopes in ancient times
It's something of leap to jump from this to telescopes. Indeed it is. I was surprised to hear that the Minoans had telescopes. I presume this is the type of thing that passes for confirmation for some. Is there an image of these lenses anywhere?
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