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Dr Adequate

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Message 91 of 108 (572699)
08-07-2010 8:15 AM

Reply to: Message 89 by Coyote
08-06-2010 11:32 PM

Re: Kill them all?

And the answer is "Never again!"

Don't you get it?

Remember the holocaust? Surely you must remember that--it was in all the papers for a while.

Israel means that it may, hopefully, not happen again.

Because now the Israelis are safely surrounded by millions of angry Muslim jerks. Hoorah!

Really, in hindsight, couldn't they all have moved to New York or something?

But there are so many people, mostly on the left, who would love to see the Jews thrown under the bus. I never could understand the reason for that ...

You made it up, you supply the reason.

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Message 92 of 108 (572700)
08-07-2010 8:16 AM

Reply to: Message 90 by Huntard
08-07-2010 3:49 AM

Re: Kill them all?

Really? Why would we need Israel for us to never persecute Jews again, can't we just, you know, not do it again?

Couldn't you say that about any proposed remedy to any evil?

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Message 99 of 108 (572712)
08-07-2010 9:22 AM

Reply to: Message 93 by Huntard
08-07-2010 8:48 AM

Re: Kill them all?

Yes. But isn't that what it comes down to anyway? I mean, if you really wanted to persecute the Jews, them having their own nation isn't gonna stop you, now is it?

And if you really wanted to commit murder, the law wouldn't stop you. But that's not a satisfactory argument against having penalties for murder.

It'll make it a lot harder, sure, but ultimately, not persecuting the Jews is only possible when you just stop doing it.

But unsuccessfully persecuting the Jews is possible when they can kick your ass into the middle of next week whether you try to persecute them or not.

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