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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
If you really are NJ in disguise, then that makes your "conclusion" above flagrantly disingenuous, making you STILL a rather dishonest/despicable person.
Really?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
In light of Hyro/NJ's latest admissions and glaring intents, do you or anyone else now concede that Crashfrog might have plausible/probable POVs? Just curious.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Hey Straggler,
Well, the master manipulator part is a little silly. We are talking about Hyro/NJ afterall. Sheesh. But . . . . . . how do you harmonize this:
with this?:
And the self-declaration that Hyro/NJ could have been an even bigger dishonest jerk if he only committed to it:
It is evidence that Hyro/NJ is the type of person who would repeatedly bait Berberry with hate speech, yes?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Straggler writes: Did NJ relentlessly pursue a point with a gay member on a controversial topic in language that the member in question clearly found deeply offensive? Yeah I think we all agree that he did. Marvelous. It seems Hyro/NJ agrees to this too. This item was "Part A" that Crash seemed to have some difficulty convincing others. Since you agree with the above . . . Then "Part B" (the million dollar question) is: The next time a member relentlessly pursues (in different threads?) a point on a controversial topic in language that a member finds deeply offensive, what action do YOU think the moderator(s) SHOULD take, if any? For the good of the forum, I am also addressing other participants with this question? What do YOU think?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Thanks, but you didn't quite answer my question:
The next time a member relentlessly pursues (in different threads?) a point on a controversial topic in language that a member finds deeply offensive, what action do YOU think the moderator(s) SHOULD take, if any?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
cavediver writes: And I would say no. NJ repeatedly pursued a controversial topic, that at times involved Berb because Berb would involve himself on account of him being offended by what NJ was discussing, and NJ followed Berb to a thread on account of Berb discussing that very situation. And it was not the language that was found offensive, it was the actual content of the topic under discussion. As Hyro has articulated, he could not change the language without changing the actual argument. As far as I am concerned, this is the bleedin' obvious. In message 200, Hyro admits/concedes:
Hyro/NJ writes: Maybe I wasn't trying to consciously "gay-bait" but was gay-baiting. Edited by dronester, : whoops, wrong person attributed to quote
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
cavediver writes: And it was not the language that was found offensive, . . . hyro/nj writes: . . . but was gay-baiting. Are you saying that if some one admits to "gay-baiting," he isn't necessarily using offensive language? Perhaps I need to see actual examples for clarity.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Hey Hyro,
It may seem like I am picking on you. But, in fact the topic is about whether Mod or any moderator could have done better. If so, what can be done differently next time? But before we can come to any conclusion, we first have to reconstruct the "crime". You have been a star witness. Seriously, thanks for helping us. But, it appears some members of the jury are still unconvinced with the testamony/evidence so far. And IF we have a hung jury, then alas, we can't suggest a better course for the moderators to take next time. I noted your message 230 below. I generally agree. Thank you:
It depends upon the content and the infraction. It also depends on whether or not the individual is being personal. Again, thanks for being a good sport about this. Also, by Mod creating this thread, (and potentially putting his head in the noose) he should get credit for trying to improve the forum.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
I agree with your second sentence:
And just because the content is deemed offensive by some, does not mean that it should not be discussed and requires moderator intervention. but . . . offensive "euphemistic language" as opposed to "gay-baiting" language? Hmmm. You have me nearly nodding my head in agreement, but I am still imagining potentially unclear, grey regions. Can you supply a clear example of each?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Hey Mod,
Unless, as you say, Crash or someone else can include additional sources, from the links you gave and I perused, then no, it appears the word "relentless" is not applicable. Anyways, thanks for your on-topic contributions to "Gender and Humor". I just wish we had more females on the forum to participate on that particular thread. I still find the subject rather interesting.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
my pint is on the bar, . . . Now when it comes to "priorities", I DO understand.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1475 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
How VERY INTERESTING!!!
When you get more info (title, show premiers dates), please let me know. Just update our "Gender and Humor" thread or PM me. In the humor thread, I think Rrhain has only used his brief introductory remarks so far, so it should still be lemony fresh by then. thanks Oni
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