This one statement just crystallizes everything you say and stand for doesn't it.
In defense of riverrat, I honestly don't think he was using those words to demean those people. He was using them to reflect the outlook and attitude of many Aremicans.
If it's not too far off-topic, I'm having trouble identifying a news source that describes the current situation. Earlier this week we heard that the cap was in place and oil was being drawn up to tankers on the surface, but also that oil was still leaking out of the cap and that the rate of leakage wasn't known. Anyone have more recent information?
I think this lack of news is a conspiracy! (There, I'm on topic! )
The statement can be taken in no other way as to demean people. His feelings about Obama and his comments here and elsewher have shown that the N word is probably a regular part of his vocabulary.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
I'm having trouble identifying a news source that describes the current situation. Earlier this week we heard that the cap was in place and oil was being drawn up to tankers on the surface, but also that oil was still leaking out of the cap and that the rate of leakage wasn't known. Anyone have more recent information?
Fox News (where else?) on June 6 is the latest report I've found. It appears that this is the most productive ongoing operation to date. As I understand the link, about 10,000 barrels a day are being recovered leaving about 15,000 barrels a day spilling.
Percy writes:
I think this lack of news is a conspiracy! (There, I'm on topic! )
Imo, you are, indeed on topic. Evidence of the conspiracy is the foot dragging, refusal of help offers from nations who use skimmers, refusal of sand barriers as per Republican Lousiana Govener Bobby Jindal, refusal to respond to numerous other remedy and offers from many sources, lack of communication with the BP man in charge and insisting on approval of the street organizer President instead of giving the green light to implement the in place on or near site things designed to get the job done.
The buck stops with the man in the White House, whose delay tactics appear to be conspiratorial. We have elected the enemy who from the gitgo, appears to have a vested interest in making the US dependent on foreign oil.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
BP are a little preoccupied with more important things right now...
abe: actual content:
So they can't stop the leaking 25-40,000 barrels per day. As buz mentioned - they are capturing 10,000 barrels of the oil per day. Now relief wells are being drilled. If BP has located precisely the right places to drill, and if BP are to be trusted, the spill will continue unabated into August. If they haven't...then they'll have to try again. Some experts are skeptical that anybody knows enough about this kind of thing to stand a reasonably good chance of getting the relief wells accurately done first time. There is some damage to the sea floor, which might render relief wells nearly pointless. With no relief wells, there is enough oil to leak for about 3 years.. Though it is not expected to be the largest quantity of oil spilled ever.
refusal of sand barriers as per Republican Lousiana Govener Bobby Jindal,
FUIUUUUUCCKKKK. I have to sort of agree with Buz. What gives with this? Why didn't they do this? It sounds, at least to this laymen, as if it would have worked great to protect the precious wetlands. Can't say there wasn't enough sand........
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The counter argument is that it is expensive and would take too long to do effectively, could re-divert the oil up to the Mississippi Delta, and wouldn't survive a tropical storm.
Edited by Modulous, : would changed to could
Edited by Modulous, : damn, I need to proof read my short posts better.
The buck stops with the man in the White House, whose delay tactics appear to be conspiratorial. We have elected the enemy who from the gitgo, appears to have a vested interest in making the US dependent on foreign oil.
You mean foreign oil like British Petroleum?
I don't usually reply to your posts, because you are insane, but sometimes I like to find out how mad you really are.
On the other hand, I have to thank you for being thoroughly on-topic.
The counter argument is that it is expensive and would take too long to do effectively, could re-divert the oil up to the Mississippi Delta, and wouldn't survive a tropical storm.
My responses to your link:
The berm system could reroute the spill up the Mississippi Delta, and it would be unlikely to survive even a mild storm during the current hurricane season.
Like the magic oil flows upstream?
Like without the berm the oil won't go up on the beach further in case of storm?
It also will absorb the short supplies of sand badly needed for projects to restore the state's coastline, damaged by past hurricanes.
Like there isn't badly needed sand on the beaches already to be protected by the berm?
Heavy equipment, including barges and dredge lines, could interfere with nesting season, now at its peak, for protected bird species.
Here go the whackos again. Sigh! Like without the berm the oil let in wouldn't interfere with the nests?
Even Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, who ultimately approved the project, was lukewarm in his endorsement.
BP, which was ordered by Allen to pick up the estimated $360 million cost of the revised 45-mile-long berm project, washed its hands of the outcome. "The company will not assume liability for unintended consequences," said spokesman Mark Proegler. "We're counting on the government to make the right decisions."
Although the state signed contracts with a dredging firm, BP has yet to provide the funding.
Just get moving and spend the money. As Jindal says, it will be a lot cheaper than cleaning up the beach.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
No. I mean foreign oil that American investors do not have a substantial stake in; like also if we drilled our own vast reserves of oil we wouldn't be driving up the prices to fund our oil rich enemies who want to destroy us.
Dr Adeqate writes:
I don't usually reply to your posts, because you are insane, but sometimes I like to find out how mad you really are.
Adequate, if ever I should renounce the Biblical record for the impossible BB singularity event you can rest assured that I'm insanely mad and they can take me away.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
I have to sort of agree with Buz. What gives with this? Why didn't they do this? It sounds, at least to this laymen, as if it would have worked great to protect the precious wetlands. Can't say there wasn't enough sand........
Saying so on line, even! You get a five for courage, Hooah.!
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
Buz - your incredulous arguments aside, what might be nice is for you to provide credible experts (eg., not politicians) arguing the benefits and so forth of the proposal.
Like without the berm the oil won't go up on the beach further in case of storm?
For instance - have you studied the analysis of the effect of dredging the sand from the sea floor on the power of the waves? You realize that changing water depths, changes the dynamics of these things in difficult to intuitively predict fashions, right? I was under the impression that no such analysis has been made.
Here go the whackos again. Sigh! Like without the berm the oil let in wouldn't interfere with the nests?
There is no context to the claim, and I'm not familiar with the ecology of the local avian populations so I'm not sure I can render any opinion. Have you seen anybody who might be more familiar than either of us give their opinion on this?
Just get moving and spend the money. As Jindal says, it will be a lot cheaper than cleaning up the beach.
Well, if they do it - I hope they're right. Then again - mankind's ingenuity tinged with greed got us into this mess, I'm think its justifiable to be worried that adding panic into the mix might result in further unintended consequences.
Personally? I'm way out of my expert zone. I haven't a clue what they should do. I'm just hoping someone out there does.
No. I mean foreign oil that American investors do not have a substantial stake in; like also if we drilled our own vast reserves of oil we wouldn't be driving up the prices to fund our oil rich enemies who want to destroy us.
You know who supplies most of our foreign oil?
Canada.
If they're trying to "destroy us", they're doing it in their usual discreet and self-effacing way.
Meanwhile, the cause of this actual crisis (remember the real world?) is that a British company is "drilling our own vast reserves of oil".
Adequate, if ever I should renounce the Biblical record for the impossible BB singularity event you can rest assured that I'm insanely mad and they can take me away.
I guess a creationist can go off-topic on any excuse.
Yeah, we get it, you're wrong about cosmology. But on this thread your role is to be screamingly insane about politics. And you were doing so well.
Well, if they do it - I hope they're right. Then again - mankind's ingenuity tinged with greed got us into this mess, I'm think its justifiable to be worried that adding panic into the mix might result in further unintended consequences.
Personally? I'm way out of my expert zone. I haven't a clue what they should do. I'm just hoping someone out there does.
Modulous, obviously, nothing mentioned could be worse than what we have regarding protecting the beaches, which is pitifully little. Watch Huckabee on Fox tonight. Lots of people are coming forward demonstrating models for protecting the beaches. One person on Huckabee developed a method where they dip a bird in solution and it comes out squeaky clean.
Without significant beach and bird damage, the whackos in (especially) and out of government would not get their agenda of making us dependent on foreign oil and moving the sheeples out of their automobiles onto bikes and into mass transit.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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on June 6 is the latest report I've found. It appears that this is the most productive ongoing operation to date. As I understand the link, about 10,000 barrels a day are being recovered leaving about 15,000 barrels a day spilling.
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