Noah's ark found ?!?

Taz writes:Christians need to stop supporting these cranks. People like Ron Watt and now apparently these christian archaeologists are doing more damage than not. They're driving all the honest people away from christianity.

why aren't these "christians" donating this money to some worthwhile cause like a homeless shelter or a kids camp or somthing?

hooah212002 writes:There's a thread out there, Evidence for the Biblical Record, that as of yet, stands open. You are welcome to show us this "evidence". Peg is the only theist so far that even tried to give it a go (even though she failed miserably, she tried).

...does anyone know the difficulties involved in such a dig???

I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut's men to the site saw the wood, but couldn't get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters - something just not possible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.

It would certainly help to persuade me. I bet it would bring thousands back to the church.

So coyote, professionals are ALWAYS right??? I agree, it should be professionals but that doesn't bring forth infallible evidence, for either side....anyways, the creation side did their job in scrutinizing the find and have made no bones that it's a hoax...I guess they all could have collaborated together and proclaimed it to be the truth but they didn't.

I understand your point but I think your being a little unfair to the significance of the find

Creationists get hammered on this evidence point all the time so why can you use it?

But, I do agree, even if the ark is found and is to be in complete size and shape as described on Ararat, it doesn't necessarily PROVE God. All it would be is another cooberating piece of evidence to go along with the others that have been found support at least the historicity of the OT and the Bible in general, nothing more.

I mean, can you imagine if the ark is ever found and it's even remotely proven to be close to the actual ark the pilgrimages of idiots that will throng to this thing to literally worship it like it's God itself??

2- If it really turns out to be what they say it is, what are the implications ?

The bible is an historical document that has proven a lot of itself true. I don't care how many foam-at-the-mouth atheists say otherwise. That being said, not all of it is true.