How did Adam and Eve know good from evil?

Quotemining scripture, are we? It says "on that day you will positively die.". They didn't die on that day, however. Furthermore, they were always meant to die, see Genesis 3:22, so if god didn't mean "on that day", which he did say, it wasn't much of a threat anyway, even if they would understand it. But that didn't happen, did it? They didn't die that day, the serpent told the truth.So again, would it help if Rrhain told you it was beetaratagang and I told you it was clerendipity? You'd have the same knowledge as Adam and Eve then. One person is telling you one thing, and another is saying the exact opposite.

What is 1 day? Its certainly not 24hours according to scripture.What is 1 day from Gods standpoint?2 Peter 3:8 says "However, let this one fact not be escaping your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.One day for God is 1,000 years for man, just as one year for a man is 7 years for a dog.We are not all bound by the same concept of time. From Gods standpoint, Adam and Eve did die the day they ate.

Peg, I will send you a large sum of money if you post a reply to this message in exactly one week. By the way, I have my own definition of "one week", which I won't tell you, of course.Good luck.

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

First this: 1 year for man is 1 year for dog.Now, god didn't explain it to them very well, did he. How are Adam and Eve supposed to know this? This is a very weak appologetic.In one intance (creation) they are litteral 24 hour days, in the other (Adam and Eve dieing), it's suddenly 1000 years.Like I said, a very weak appologetic. {ABE}: If someone tells me "you will die on this day", I will not assume he means "in a thousand years". Not even if God told me, you should always explain things in terms the one you are explaining to understands. If he meant "within a thousand years", he should have said that.Edited by Huntard, : Added {ABE} bit

What is any Biblical statement from God's standpoint?Not only does this claim open you up to some criticism for some special knowledge of god that is better than the average joe can understand according to your peculiar interpretation, it also - heaven forbid! - can lead to declaring some kind of truce with that 'evil' physical science geology.If you are going to actually think about what you are told concerning Christianity, you really should read Spinoza. It could change your whole perspective into something more positive, even if less anthropomorphic.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

Also, one more thing. Adam and Eve were always meant to die, see Genesis 3:22. They did die before the thousand years were up, in short, god's threat amounts to: "If you eat from that tree, you will die on the moment you were going to die anyway". Yeah, great threat there, god!

Dog years are not the same as human years, if you've never heard of 'dog years' then read up.You know the discussions that have been had about the hebrew word 'yom'I'm sure i dont need to remind you of the jewish definition of this word. But to jog your memory, it can mean a persons lifetime, it can mean a whole time period where an extraordinary event happens...it can mean the portion of the day when there is light, it can also mean a season... It isnt just 24hours and anyone who demands that the genesis yom is a literal 24 hours is not taking the meaning of the word into consideration.

ok so now you want to add the words 'on the moment' to the account.Unfortunately, they dont exist.

Yes I''ve heard about dog years. It's the commonly quoted thing to say that when you multiply a dog's age by seven, you get it's "human" age. Which is stupid, since some digs get to be over 20 years of age (mostly the smaller kinds), which would make them older than 140 human years, which so far, no human has ever achieved.Also, this in no way means that dogs experience the passing of years any slower then humans do, which is waht you siad. My critique is that you change it around to conveniently fit whatever scenario you have thought up. In one instance it is claimed it's 24 hours, in another it's 1000 years. This is a very easy cop-out for you to take. If it meant 1000 years, it should have said 1000 years. {ABE}: Also, since you admit it can also mean the portion of the day when there is light, why do you think you get to determine god meant by what he said?Edited by Huntard, : Added {ABE} bit

I don't want to add anything. I paraphrased what your explanation boiled down to.You say god meant "within a thousand years" when he said "on that day". Adam and Eve were already meant to die (see Genesis 3:22), so basically what god told them was: "You will die in the period of time you were already going to die in anyway". Which isn;t much of a threat.Remeber, it is you who syas this, not me. I say god meant "that day" and that didn't happen.

What the heck?
A dog year is a term created by man. 365 days for a human is the same as 365 days for a dog. What nonsense. "Time is relative", yeah but not in this context. Sigh.

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Dog years are not the same as human years, if you've never heard of 'dog years' then read up

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Yes, please read Peg. A year is a year for a human or a dog. Since a dog's lifespan is shorter than the average human lifespan, a dog ages faster in the same amount of time. (Dog Years)A 1yr old dog is like a 15 yr old human. The comparison of dog yrs to human yrs deals with the aging process, not the passage of time. A year is still a year. A 1yr old dog is an adult. A 1yr old human is not.Which brings us to 2 Peter 3:8. Notice the word "like". This is a simile. The verse isn't saying that 1 day equals a thousand years. Big difference.The phrase was used to contrast the impatience of the mockers of the last days with the patience of God.Notice a day is "like" a thousand years. That means a day seems long. Then we have a thousand years is "like" a day. That tells us that a thousand years seems short.IOW, it might take another thousand years, or it might take a day. The point being that the end comes when God chooses, not man. Peter is assuring his audience that God was being patient and giving people the opportunity to repent and not to be taken in by the impatience of the mockers. The verse is not telling us that a thousand years pass by for us but only a day passes for God.This is another case of misunderstanding figurative writing. This verse has no bearing on the A&E story.

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Scripture is like Newton’s third law of motionfor every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
In other words, for every biblical directive that exists, there is another scriptural mandate challenging it.
-- Carlene Cross in The Bible and Newton’s Third Law of Motion

My dog was quite concerned the other day because the price of dog food has gone up to nearly $5.00 a can in dog dollars.How long is a god year, Peg? 365,240 people years? 2,556,680 dog years? A whole bunch of mayfly years? You're being ridiculous.

Hi again, Peg.You fail (or refuse) to grasp the point. Repeatedly and incessantly.I'll quote Huntard since his is the latest oft-repeated question to you that still goes unanswered: God telling them they'll die (forget the time-frame, etc for now) if they partake of the forbidden pomegranate is directly contradicted by the serpent's statements. Not having eaten from the tree, how were they to know which statement was "good" and which was "evil"? And without adding "... there was animal death before the Fall ..." you have no basis that A&E knew what the consequences (i.e. "death") actually meant.Hence, "the question" stands as posed, still unanswered. As it must remain, it seems.Have a good one. Edited by Apothecus, : speelig

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"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

The person who wrote 2 Peter could have as easily said 1 million, 1 billion or any large number and It would have meant the same thing, except his audience would probably not understood anything higher that 1000. To an entity that is supposed to be eternal, 1 day could be a googleplex**googlelplex and still be a useless time frame.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008