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Topic: The End of Evolution By Means of Natural Selection
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 2 of 851 (551962)
03-25-2010 1:56 PM
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Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 147 of 851 (553062)
04-01-2010 10:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 145 by Faith
04-01-2010 9:35 AM
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Re: On variation and it's origins
You have a PM.
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 150 of 851 (553082)
04-01-2010 10:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 148 by Faith
04-01-2010 10:50 AM
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Re: On variation and it's origins
At the right end of the line of links at the top of the page is one that says "Messaging(1)". The "1" means you have 1 private message that you haven't read yet. Click on the link and you'll be taken to the Inbox of your personal private messaging page.
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 178 of 851 (553810)
04-05-2010 8:19 AM
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Moderator Opinion
One could argue that Faith's own posts are doing herself sufficient damage and that there's no need for others to assist in her efforts at destroying her own credibility, but it doesn't seem reasonable to me to expect people to withhold comment, opinion, criticism and ridicule on such extremely stubborn, persistent and profound irrationality and error.
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Re: Faith's greatest hits re-mix
Hi WK! BlueJay has decided to conclude his participation in the Reduction of Alleles by Natural Selection (Faith and ZenMonkey Only) thread. Since you've expressed an interest in a Great Debate concerning the existence of beneficial mutations, and since Faith's position is dependent on their non-existence, could you please take over for him?
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Re: Faith's greatest hits re-mix
Hi WK! Looks like I have to withdraw the invitation, Faith objects. Sorry.
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Re: Dominant and recessive and so forth.
Hi ZenMonkey, Would you like to continue the discussion with Faith in a one-on-one over at Reduction of Alleles by Natural Selection (Faith and ZenMonkey Only)?
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Message 319 of 851 (555167)
04-12-2010 2:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 318 by Faith
04-12-2010 2:22 PM
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Re: Dominant and recessive and so forth.
Faith writes: OK by me to discuss it with you on the other thread. Please don't spend time on mutations though. I have changed the title to list you and ZenMonkey as the participants:
If beneficial mutations truly don't exist then you should have little difficulty demonstrating this during the discussion.
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Message 320 of 851 (555168)
04-12-2010 2:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 312 by ZenMonkey
04-12-2010 11:05 AM
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Re: Dominant and recessive and so forth.
Everything's all set for you over at the Reduction of Alleles by Natural Selection (Faith and ZenMonkey Only) thread.
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Message 332 of 851 (555190)
04-12-2010 3:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 317 by Faith
04-12-2010 1:56 PM
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Moderator Action
Faith writes: But despite evidence galore that these mistakes have produced thousands of genetic diseases in human beings as well as apparently only incoherent effects otherwise --that only destroy a previously functioning allele -- you all PRONOUNCE them the means of making functioning alleles (functioning meaning producing something coherent that isn't harmful) and then you call it FACT and talk as if every variation is the result of mutations -- you actually DESCRIBE variations as mutations -- and again, this is DECEIT. In order to head off another meltdown I'm temporarily removing your posting privileges in this forum, the Biological Evolution forum. This will allow you to focus your energies on the Reduction of Alleles by Natural Selection (Faith and ZenMonkey Only) thread.
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Moderator Action: Dr Adequate, 24 hours
For the message this is a reply to. See you tomorrow.
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Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002
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Message 692 of 851 (558190)
04-30-2010 7:41 AM
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A Word about Message Ratings
I've noticed some odd message ratings recently, so before a message rating war breaks out I thought I'd reexplain a couple things about the message rating system that I've explained before in other threads. First, the rating system is a temporary experiment and will change. It will be changed so as to automate our post-of-the-month system. But second, for those using the current system, if your goal is to raise or lower a member's overall rating you need only rate a single message. Rating multiple messages at the highest or lowest levels isn't necessary. Rating a single message a 5 or a 1 will have the exact same impact as rating all of a member's messages a 5 or a 1. This is because your opinion of a member's messages (as indicated by the average rating you've given their messages) only gets counted once, no matter how many of their messages you've rated. So for those of you trying to influence the member ratings your job is easy: vote once. And for everyone: Don't take the ratings seriously. It's an experiment. I wish I could make the improvements I want to make right now, but I only have so much time.
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Message 701 of 851 (558248)
04-30-2010 12:40 PM
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Moderator Advisory
We will not be engaging in verbal fisticuffs in this or any other thread. Please, everyone, keep your posts focused on the topic of discussion. Provide both evidence and argument in support of your position. Clarify your points when requested or when it seems necessary.
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Message 718 of 851 (558521)
05-01-2010 9:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 713 by Faith
05-01-2010 6:24 PM
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Re: Plotting how to subvert Faith to their point of view
Hi Faith, I've sent you a couple PM's over the past couple days that you haven't responded to and that haven't had any noticeable effect on the manner of your participation, so I'm posting a note here to make to make sure you have seen them. Allow me to repeat something I said in an earlier post:
Admin writes: We will not be engaging in verbal fisticuffs in this or any other thread. Please, everyone, keep your posts focused on the topic of discussion. Provide both evidence and argument in support of your position. Clarify your points when requested or when it seems necessary. The goal is productive, constructive discussion. I hope we all want to learn what is actually true about the universe we live in, and that we wouldn't let our inner need to be right get in the way. The threads in which you participate all descend into tendentious bickering, and I'm hopeful that this can be brought to an end without direct moderator action.
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Message 729 of 851 (558635)
05-03-2010 11:10 AM
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Faith Is Suspended
People should be aware that Faith has been suspended indefinitely. I've been exchaning PMs with Faith, and she believes the problems stem from unfair treatment of her by both participants and moderators (meaning me). She feels she begins unemotionally, but she's subjected to a great deal of abuse during discussion, and when she gets mad I "spring into action" as if it were her fault. I told Faith that I would like her to find a partner who shares her views and who could share the load and serve as emotional supprot, but she does not seem amenable to that. I don't know what Faith might decide in the future, but people should be aware that Faith may not be returning soon when deciding whether to post responses to her threads. Edited by Admin, : Typo.
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