Quality Control the Gold Standard

Wounded King Thanks for pointing that out WKI don't know why that one slipped in.

So, do you agree that Evolutionary Theory is NOT "non-mathematical?

I just remembered looking through Origin of the Species and not seeing anything more mathmatical that measuring finch beaks.Did I miss the calculus,diff eq , complex variable, vetor and tensor analysis and approximate methods... what page are those on.

So, what professional scientific work has Gish done since he was a student in California?What new advances has he contributed to the body of scientific knowldge?I'm talking about peer-reviewed papers which have spawned further research or have resulted in new techniques or technologies.

Here are a few of the many peer reviewed research papers published by the FRAUD.Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...Just a moment...

The Origin of Species is not the totality of The Modern Synthesis, any more than Galileo's early work is not the totality of Modern Cosmology and Astronomy.So you agree that The Modern Synthesis is NOT non-mathematical?

Excellent.What has he published since he became a Creationist, and what has he published using Creationist concepts?IOW, how productive has he been as a professional scientist using Creation Science?

Math is used in various absrruce forms (see Pregorine) to prop up a subjective set of tenents.Evolution works in reverse of truly great science in that an objective and mathmatical formulation is used to capture tand demonstrate the theory and then experimentation and empirical observation follows.Or do you actually believe Newton sat under the apple tree and Galileo climbed the Tower first.

ONce he became a creationist formally by employment he was blackballed from any evolutionary publication as is everyone else.Are you saying he was once a talented, well educated, productive and useful scientist but upon becoming a creationist he bacame a useless, moron.Life has phases each of which has its validity.

Do you actually believe Newton formulated a mathematical expression before he made any observations of gravity at work?The tale of the falling apple may be apocryphal, but it serves very well as an exemplar of naturalistic observation.Scientific hypotheses are made to explain observed phenomena. Then the hypothesis is used to make predictions, and the predictions are tested.Darwin made observations, then formulated his hypothesis. The modern synthesis has made predictions, both with and without mathematical tools, and the success of those predictions has strongly confirmed the theory.Most "great science" did not first pop into existence as formulae.

---

"Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more cakes and ale?"
-Sir Toby Belch, Twelfth Night Save lives! Click here!
Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC!
---------------------------------------

So the theory of relativity was originally:I was watching some energy and mass interchange in my back yard and the idea that sunlight made it possible for me to see led me to E=mc**2Later that week I felt the sudden impusle of gravity waves and the pelting of gravitons and the time seemed to shrink while my ruler was alternately lenghthening and shrinking before my very eyes.I was totally bent and warped out of shape by the observations and immediately started to think how I could possibly express these observations in mathmatical terms.

Most threads are shut down after they reach 300 posts. That means there are less than 80 posts left to discuss the topic. If the topic drift continues it will be less because the thread will be shut down early. The last post that addresses replicator reliability is Message 192.

---

--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

There is one factor we can get a numerical handle on:The rate of spontaneous abortions (miscarriages) in detected pregnancies is 15-20% (about 1 in 6). Some studies suggest the overall rate may be as high as 50% (with many miscarriages so early as to have not been clinically confirmed), with the mother experiencing only a "late period." The underlying cause is overwhelmingly fetal chromosomal abnormality; consequently, human births with chromosomal abnormalities are rare. The risk of a second miscarriage is no higher; i.e., the risk remains at 15-20%, suggesting an error in the genetic process itself, not in the parental material. More info here.

---

"Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more cakes and ale?"
-Sir Toby Belch, Twelfth Night Save lives! Click here!
Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC!
---------------------------------------

quote:

---

ONce he became a creationist formally by employment he was blackballed from any evolutionary publication as is everyone else.

---

Submissions for scholraly journals are usually annonymous, so it is quite possible for anyone to publish a journal article. All they have to do is produce work that is of a certain standard of quality.They don't even have to be a professional scientist, as a little 10 year old girl named Emily Rosa who's work was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) demonstrates.Behe continues to publish in scholarly journals even though he is a proponent of theistic evolution of a sort.There's no black balling.

quote:

---

Are you saying he was once a talented, well educated, productive and useful scientist but upon becoming a creationist he bacame a useless, moron.

---

I am not saying he became a moron.I am saying he ceased being a scientist.

quote:

---

Life has phases each of which has its validity.

---

Indeed.Gish left behind any semblance of his scientific life long ago, yet continues to use his long-past history of Biology work to impress people who are uninformed in the science he mangles.

I hate to pile on Evopeach... But are there any examples of Creation science papers he has published? Even a paper (if it's scientific) from a creation science publication (do they have those?) might be of interest.Regards