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Taz Member (Idle past 3314 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
DrA writes:
This is an iffy statement. At what point do we draw the line between willful ignorance and lying to oneself and others? Very well. I maintain that the vast majority of creationists are sincere, and I shall argue for it. Start a thread. As for me, I do not see a difference between leaving out evidence, twist or falsify data, exaggerate moot points, etc. and lying. Those of us who have been in this argument for years have observed how creationists willfully twist people's words to serve their own purpose. A long time ago, I attended a lecture by a very well spoken creationist. I say well spoken because he was one of the best public speakers I have ever seen. That said, his whole lecture was basically pulling quotes from scientists out of context. In one instance, he put up a quote by a scientist that said something like rocks can be dated by the fossil found in it. Then he put up another quote by the same scientist that said something like fossils could be dated by the rocks they were found in. He, of course, got a laugh from the audience, who I'm sure made up by the unwashed masses. I remember saying to myself "this guy just lied right through his teeth by taking someone's quotes out of context." In fact, off the top of my head I can't think of any creo who didn't ignore evidence presented by scientists. Ignoring evidence seems to be the only way they can continue to believe in creationism.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4212 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
They would be close to the action, ever heard of the Mediterranean Sea? the melting of Ice age ice would overflow the Mediterranean and flood the middle east & North Africa.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Robert Byers Member (Idle past 4391 days) Posts: 640 From: Toronto,canada Joined: |
Taq writes: No problem and in fact these days they are used to demonstrate that it was all from mega floods and not slow moving glaciers. How do mega floods produce these features? Studies on mega floods show almost all formations in sediment or bedrock are from fast flowing water. That is the votices and other mechanisms within the flow. even Drumlins are seen now as from mega floods.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2128 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Studies on mega floods show almost all formations in sediment or bedrock are from fast flowing water. That is the votices and other mechanisms within the flow. even Drumlins are seen now as from mega floods. Try this site for examples that contradict your statement: http://www.uwsp.edu/...ticipants/dutch/vtrips/scablands0.htm And here is one picture from that site:
ps. The global flood ca. 4,350 years ago is a tribal myth that has been disproved in many ways, beginning about 200 years ago. Even my own research disproves that flood myth. (Ask me how, if you dare.) Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Studies on mega floods show almost all formations in sediment or bedrock are from fast flowing water. That is the votices and other mechanisms within the flow. even Drumlins are seen now as from mega floods. I think we were looking for a little more detail and evidence than that, rather than mere assertion. As it stands, you might as well have written:
Studies on flying pigs show almost all formations in sediment or bedrock are from pigs fluttering their wings. That is the votices and other mechanisms within the fluttering. even Drumlins are seen now as from flying pigs.
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Robert Byers Member (Idle past 4391 days) Posts: 640 From: Toronto,canada Joined: |
bluescat48 writes: They would be close to the action, ever heard of the Mediterranean Sea? the melting of Ice age ice would overflow the Mediterranean and flood the middle east & North Africa. In fact it is said that the Med sea was carved out by fast flowing water into it. They put it in a earlier age then the glacial period but still its all about the sea being created by water surges.I'm by the way not saying the melting of the ice was what carved out the med. i see it as from a world event a few centuries after the great flood. There was a rise in sea levels everywhere. This from a great upheaval on continents as I see it. anyways the point is YES the Med was created by incoming water.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4212 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
You are missing my point, the med sea was already there in 2100 BCE. if as your hypothesis would have, the melting waters would flow into the med sea and overflow all around it including Canaan & Mesopotamia.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
In fact it is said that the Med sea was carved out by fast flowing water into it. Said by whom, on what basis?
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Taq Member Posts: 10045 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
In fact it is said that the Med sea was carved out by fast flowing water into it. It is also said that Mikey from the Life cereal commercials died when he ingested Pop Rocks and Pepsi. People say a lot of things. What matters is the evidence. Do you have any?
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Taq Member Posts: 10045 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Studies on mega floods show almost all formations in sediment or bedrock are from fast flowing water. What type of formation could a mega flood not produce? How does a mega flood produce 400 foot thick chalk deposits made up of coccolithophores? How do mega floods create lake varves where the insect and leaf debris is sorted by minute differences in 14C? How do megafloods produce fossilized windswept sand dunes like those seen in the Cocconino sandstones in the Grand Canyon? How do megafloods produce incised gooseneck meanders like those seen here:
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Robert Byers Member (Idle past 4391 days) Posts: 640 From: Toronto,canada Joined: |
bluescat48 writes: You are missing my point, the med sea was already there in 2100 BCE. if as your hypothesis would have, the melting waters would flow into the med sea and overflow all around it including Canaan & Mesopotamia. When ever it came in the BC it still was a excavation of the land that created the Med sea. Before it was dry land which allowed rapid animal migration. in fact they find concentrations of creatures, post flood, killed and collected in some islands showing they were overthrown by this event.
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Robert Byers Member (Idle past 4391 days) Posts: 640 From: Toronto,canada Joined: |
its a common mention in books dealing with the origin of the Med sea.
Not creationist material.
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Robert Byers Member (Idle past 4391 days) Posts: 640 From: Toronto,canada Joined: |
Taq writes: Studies on mega floods show almost all formations in sediment or bedrock are from fast flowing water. What type of formation could a mega flood not produce? How does a mega flood produce 400 foot thick chalk deposits made up of coccolithophores? How do mega floods create lake varves where the insect and leaf debris is sorted by minute differences in 14C? How do megafloods produce fossilized windswept sand dunes like those seen in the Cocconino sandstones in the Grand Canyon? How do megafloods produce incised gooseneck meanders like those seen here:
I only meant the mega floods created certain earth geography. I meant that the melted ice was the origin of the mega floods. not noahs flood.It was a example of how mega floods are now seen to have done massive instand work.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 307 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
its a common mention in books dealing with the origin of the Med sea. No it isn't. It's widely accepted that the Med was filled by a breach of the Straits of Gibraltar, but not that the Mediterranean basin was excavated by the water in question. How would that even work?
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