What Benefits Are Only Available Through God?

What cure? Noah's progeny - us - turned out to be exactly like the cancer; you know, human. He didn't do anything to change anything - man was still fallen. (In your terms.) No, no, no. You're still seeing this from your own viewpoint. "You guys" - i.e. atheists - do not laugh in god's face, how can they? he doesn't exist. Once again, do you laugh in the face of pixies?When you talk about what we think or do, just think about how you view elves or fairies. IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME.

Looks like Phat has finally lost the plot and gone over to the dark side where things are simple.

Very, very easily, you just have to achieve certainty in a belief system and start getting angry and blocking, barring and denouncing believers of different beliefs systems. Spent two days doing just that and I have no difficulty forgetting religious philosophy, for me it's just a hobby when bored. For you it seems all encompassing. That's unhealthy. No argument there.

If no evidence has been found where evidence should be found, that generally rules out the hypothesis.Why do you think there is no evidence?

Of course it was, that's why you believe in Jesus not Mohamed. Nobody becomes a Christian unless they've heard of Christ. Why is that?

Your god is supposed to intervene in our world. We don't see it. Prayers are supposed to be answered. They aren't. Critics will label it narcissism and bullshit.

I'm not interested in copy and paste quora, I asked *you* a question.

By “we don't see it” I mean that we cannot see any objective evidence of it. Not that some individuals belief that they see it but can't demonstrate it. Please show me which prayers have been answered. I'm asking for objective evidence for *any*.

Don't be ridiculous, millions of people get through life quite happily without needing the mental support from an imaginary magic being.

Yes, that should tell you something. No, we don't believe in leprechauns either, or Treasure Island. We're just pointing out that there's nothing special about your book or your beliefs. They're just irrational, unevidenced, beliefs. Of course, you believe in a Christian god not leprechauns. Muslims would say exactly the same thing. That should also tell you something.

Evidence is the only way we can understand anything.Everything else is purely subjective. When it all bottoms out - all the argument, all the books and all the mental gymnastics - the only thing that actually matters to you is your personal belief, this 'revealed truth'. If you allow yourself to think that Jesus is real in your life there's nothing you can't rationalise away. Everything just washes over you and you carry on regardless.If it was any belief other than a god belief it would be called a form of mental illness. The god delusion is only accepted as ok because it's been around so long and used to be universal. It will eventually be seen for what it is but it's taking a long time.

Well that took at least 90 seconds to prove stupidly wrong.

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The Prophet travelled from Mecca to Jerusalem in a single night on a strange winged creature called Buraq. From Jerusalem he ascended into heaven, where he met the earlier prophets, and eventually God.

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It's almost as if you think that anything you type becomes true just by typing it. Very Trumpian.

That'll be the Quran, Faith.I believe it mentions Mecca too. Well Bakkah actually, it's name at the time. So that's time and place.Funny how other people's dumb belief sound like hogwash isn't it?

What amazing hubris! Everybody else's belief is is inferior to mine. What crap.

There is absolutely no difference between Jesus riding into Jerusalem on a donkey and Mohamed turning up in Mecca. They're both real places and both occur at specific times. So according to you, must both contribute to authentication. Or neither do. The latter is, of course, the case.