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What Benefits Are Only Available Through God?

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Message 257 of 438 (853443)
05-27-2019 2:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 253 by foreveryoung
05-27-2019 1:28 PM

Re: All praise Her Noodliness
These 66 books refer to actual places and people and events.
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So Ireland isn't an actual place?
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
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Message 272 of 438 (853486)
05-27-2019 10:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
05-27-2019 9:31 PM

Re: All praise Her Noodliness
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
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Message 273 of 438 (853487)
05-27-2019 10:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
05-27-2019 9:31 PM

Re: All praise Her Noodliness
It's unbelievably stoopid and as so many such comments are here, time-wasting.
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Says the spreader of untreated sewage.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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05-27-2019 10:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 274 by AZPaul3
05-27-2019 10:21 PM

Re: All praise Her Noodliness
At least she made me laugh.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Message 281 of 438 (853525)
05-28-2019 2:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 280 by foreveryoung
05-28-2019 1:40 PM

Re: All praise Her Noodliness
Leprechauns are Irish. It was sarcasm to try and make you think about the absurdity of trying to use "actual places" in the bible as corroborating evidence for the bible, but it went right over your head.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
​
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Message 285 of 438 (853541)
05-28-2019 4:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 282 by Faith
05-28-2019 3:42 PM

Re: All praise Her Noodliness
The bible is fiction, as imaginary as Santa Claus. Grow up.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
​
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Message 349 of 438 (853862)
06-01-2019 6:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 344 by GDR
06-01-2019 5:07 PM

However, there is no doubt in my mind that there will be unintended consequences. As the population ages there will be more and more pressure put on people to "do the right thing" as they are past their "best sell by date". Offspring, pushing mentally confused parents to be euthanized so that they can inherit sooner rather than later. It is a very slippery slope. Another would be the pressure to euthanize the mentally handicapped. The last was a feature of Nazism. We are very capable of going down that road.
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We may be capable of going down the wrong road, but we are also capable of resisting our baser impulses.
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Oregon passed its "Death with Dignity Act in 1997 and so far none of the things you worry about have happened.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Message 355 of 438 (853871)
06-01-2019 8:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 352 by GDR
06-01-2019 7:23 PM

Totally off topic, I'd like to know what type of insect it is that you have pictured there. I was just out on the patio reading a book and one just like that landed on my book mark and I was wondering what it was. It looked just like that except that the tail, (or whatever you call that part), was red, and interestingly enough it was pulsing making it look like it had a heartbeat.
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My avatar is a dragonfly called Tanypteryx hageni. People are reporting a red one called Sympetrum illotum in BC right now. It is usually the first Sympetrum to be seen in the PNW in Spring. If you google the name you may be able to confirm that is the species you saw.
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The pulsing of the abdomen is breathing. Insects pump air in and out through holes in some segments called spiracles that are hooked to a network of tubes called trachea that facilitate gas exchange with all the cells of the body. So their respiriatory system is separate from their mouths and their circulatory system.
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Yes, and most of us do, however, over time things become acceptable in society. As I said, with an aging population it will IMHO, become common for someone who is living in a home to be encouraged by medical people or even family; to encourage people to take that route.
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In Oregon, the act specifies that the person must be under a doctor's care and terminal. We have advance directives and hospice care, but this gives a person control of their own body and destiny. The patient has to be able to communicate and make their wishes clear.
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We also allow an advance directive to dictate whether a patient can be revived or hooked up to medical equipment to keep them alive.
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If coercion is going to happen, it can happen just as easily without the Death with Dignity Act. Terminal patients commit suicide on their own without a doctor's care, so I don't think your reasoning is sound.
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This just gives an individual the option to make this decision rather than doctors or you or the government forcing them to hang in there no matter what.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
​
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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